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Impeachment Week Begins...National Lawyers Guild's Impeachment Resolution
The National Lawyers Guild passed an Impeachment Resolution against George W. Bush and Dick Cheney (PDF-warning or view the html at afterdowningstreet.org)
Tuesday, Dennis Kucinich will bring impeachment to the floor of the House. So, our country is finally going to get to hear arguments on impeachment. What can we do to make sure that justice prevails?
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What can we do to make sure that justice prevails?
Ship them off in chaines, to the International War Crimes Court, and charge them with war crimes against humanity.
arguments on impeachment in the house?
I wish you well, I just would not hold my breath.
Noun + Verb + 9/11 + Iran = Democrats’ Defeat?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/opinion/04rich.html?_r=1&ex=1351828800&en=656b9dd498585bad&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&oref=slogin
Arguments...
Ok...well, I probably was dreaming when using that particular word. I suspect Pelosi and Hoyer will be doing their dead-dog imitation--or rather dead-donkey imitation.
And Georgie is Parroting, World War 111 Iran, Iran, better watch your back Georgie, and deal with you new friend Musharraf.
Times: Bush plans to keep Pakistan from being mockery of democracy 'fell apart spectacularly'
In a somewhat sharply worded news analysis in Sunday's editions of The New York Times, the paper of record takes the president to task on his seeming failure to maintain order in Pakistan.
"For more than five months the United States has been trying to orchestrate a political transition in Pakistan that would manage to somehow keep Gen. Pervez Musharraf in power without making a mockery of President Bush’s promotion of democracy in the Muslim world," pens the Times' Sheryl Gay Stolberg and Helene Cooper.
"On Saturday, those carefully laid plans fell apart spectacularly," they continue. "Now the White House is stuck in wait-and-see mode, with limited options and a lack of clarity about the way forward."
Musharraf declared emergency rule Saturday evening, putting the Army in charge of Islamabad. Most of the Supreme Court was disbanded after they refused to certify his decision; Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry was placed under house arrest. Telephone lines were cut and critical media outlets shuttered.
The Times said Pakistan was close to a Bush administration nightmare -- an "American-backed military dictator who is risking civil instability in a country with nuclear weapons and an increasingly alienated public"
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Times_Bush_plans_for_Pakistan_fell_1103.html
Kucinich Schedules Nationwide Call-in Monday to Address Cheney Impeachment Measure
WASHINGTON, Nov. 4 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Thousands of supporters,
political activists, and other interested citizens are expected to dial in
Monday (tomorrow) evening to a nationwide conference call to hear
Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich explain why and how he
plans to force an up-or-down vote in the U.S. House of Representatives on
the impeachment resolution against Vice President Richard B. Cheney.
Last week, the Ohio Congressman announced that he will be offering a
"privileged resolution" on Tuesday, November 6, that will, within two days,
require House members to vote on what to do with the impeachment measure,
which currently has 22 sponsors. Dozens of supportive organizations have advised the Kucinich campaign that they will be lobbying Congressional representatives heavily over the next few days to support the Ohio Congressman impeachment resolution (House Resolution 333).
The conference call is expected to begin at about 7:30 p.m. ET on Monday. It will be open to anyone, including representatives of the news
media. Additional details will be posted on the campaign website...snip
For Elizabeth and Marjorie:
With Elections Impending Next Week, Company Downplays, Hides Failure Rate Will The U.S. Elections Assistance Commission Take Action?...
Guest Blogged by John Gideon, VotersUnite.Org
Saturday's Daytona Beach News-Journal reports that Diebold Election Systems, now having renamed itself Premier Election Solutions, has admitted that some of its 25,000 optical scan voting machines used in Florida and elsewhere across the nation may have a problem that causes memory card failures during elections.
As we would expect, Florida election officials and Diebold/Premier have downplayed the problem as they say that the problem does not threaten the integrity of U.S. elections. However, the Volusia County, FL Supervisor of Elections, Ann McFall, said , "I don't think votes are lost". Her office has also admitted that the problem has caused problems and adds to the cost of elections.
The U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) has yet to take action on this matter, despite impending elections, the commission's statutory mission as the oversight body for certification of electronic voting systems their mandated mission to be a "national clearinghouse" for information on them and two GAO reports critical of their failure to do any of the above. If they follow previous patterns, they will do absolutely nothing to alert other states and counties who use the same system, about this problem.
Diebold/Premier, of course, and again, is attempting to downplay the severity of their failures in Florida and refusing to release their own information gathered on it, characterizing the true extent of the failure as "proprietary business information"...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5242
Sparrow
Duly forwarded .. I know Elizabeth & Ben Doko have gotten very involved with the upcoming FCC Town Hall - we don't want more media consolidation - we have enough.
Thanks!
By the way,
Elizabeth Walter was given an award as "Democrat of the Year" by the Washington State Democrats, for her work on election integrity. Now if only they would listen to what she has to say!
I have heard from several people who say that Town Hall on Friday is going to be jam-packed, for the meeting having to do with the FCC and media consolidation.
From last OT
November 4, 2007 6:34 AM
Christy said:
You know the phelps idiot protesting the soldiers funerals with 'God Hates F*gs" signs...?
Is it just me, or does anyone else suspect that dude is actually himself gay?
Christy, Shakespeare's words ring true whenever the protests are loud and bullish. "Methinks she doth protest too much!" Nothing is more certain than that the loudest critic and protester of all things *deviant* is him/herself right up there in the fray. You are so right - how sordid is that pretence whilst trawling public toilets?
Whilst they are awaiting trial can they please be held without bail or likelihood of ever being freed? Please? In Guantanamo? With current Guantanamo inmates as their supervising guards?
nmp - that Indian chief is so right. How come we are still too dumb to work out that wealth is in our lives - not in our bank accounts?
Christy and all - this is a far greater step that's being made here by the National Lawyers Guild than has been made since the Dems won control of both houses in 2006. I hope the Pelosis et al who aren't doing the job they were elected and employed to do, pay close attention to this loss of power. Their jobs are on the line I suspect.
sparrow - I'm sure Jesselyn is paying close attention to this. Every time something new comes up from the illegalities of the WH Justice system, I give another little wish for Jesselyn to be able to regain her life somehow. Perhaps we are moving closer.
Sorry if I offend Christians here. It is not my intention. All I know is that most of the Christians in my family believe that GW was put there by God to "Deliver Us From Evil". It's a pretty potent view and one that won't go away quietly.
Hey I am a fallen baptist. Feel free to offend me baby!
Rossi can get her cousin Kev to say Hail marys for all of us.
"..how sordid is that pretence whilst trawling public toilets?"
How sordid has it got to be to keep having this conversation over and over?
Public toilets. you know, it would be funny if it were not so damn sick and just wrong, and repeated every week.
What can we do to make sure justice prevails? For one get every damn republican OUT of our government until they are no longer harboring war mongers, traitors, child molesters and any other garden variety deviant.
Let us not be satified until we have run all the bastards back into the closet they live in and lock the door so none of them can ever re-emerge again to haunt our public bathroom facilities.
Oh, and impeaching their little demigods would help.
NMP: Go Seattle!
Congrats to Elizabeth as well.
woz; I do not believe that anyone here is anti-Christian, any more than I believe that those who criticize Israel for its aggressive policies are anti-Jewish. As we say to our children: I love you, but I don't like your behavior right now!
We really need to focus on the act and not on the person. When good people do bad things, the fact that they are generally good does not make the act less bad!
A lesson for Schumer and DiFi this week.
Video: DoJ Official Pushed Out For Calling Waterboarding Torture
November 4, 2007
"On Friday's Countdown Keith Olbermann talked to Newsweek's Richard Wolfe and Former Nixon White House Counsel, John Dean, about Senators Feinstein and Schumer's inexcusable caving on President Bush's Attorney General nominee and an ABC News report that claims former acting Assistant Attorney General Daniel Levin was forced out of the DoJ when he declared waterboarding to be torture — after allowing himself to be waterboarded."
Keith Olbermann - Daniel Levin - Waterboarding discussion 2
This is a video response to Keith Olbermann - Daniel Levin - Waterboarding discussion 1
Christy said:
Rossi can get her cousin Kev to say Hail marys for all of us.
*******
Shit Christy he would be on his knees day and night, he has enough to say for me, but you and me together, I think that might be just a little to much for my poor cuz
Hanging Ten on a water-board - Don't Ask, Don't Tell, SHOW!
Sunday, 04 November 2007
by Stephen P. Pizzo
There seem to be folks on the right who remain unclear on the concept — not the least among them, Attorney General nominee, Michael Mukasey.
The concept they can't seem to get a firm fix on is whether or not the interrogation technique known as "water-boarding," — making a person think he or she is being drowned — is or is not "torture."
I don't know about you, but it sure as hell sounds like torture to me. But there are still those in this administration and Congress who support the technique and claim it is not torture.
I have a solution.
But first let's see how humanity has chosen to describe something that does qualify as torture:
Websters:
Torture is any action taken against another person that causes, "anguish of body or mind agony: something that causes agony or pain. Anguish: "extreme pain, distress, or anxiety."
The International Red Cross:
Torture: existence of a specific purpose plus intentional infliction of severe suffering or pain;
MedTerms medical dictionary:
Torture: An act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person, for a purpose such as obtaining information or a confession, punishment, intimidation or coercion..."
When asked during his confirmation hearings if water-boarding was torture, Mukasey said he couldn't really say, since he was not familiar with the details of the technique. Which is a kinda hard to swallow since the technique has been described in excruciating detail in the popular press since it first burst into the national consciousness a couple of years ago — thanks to Vlad the Hoser at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
But all the publicity surrounding water-boarding seems to have left at least some public officials on the right unclear on whether it's torture or not torture. Some seem to feel that water-boarding is no more cruel than forcing a cat to take a bath.
Which is why I've concluded the only solution is to stop telling and start showing. And what better way to get a handle on the concept than for those who support the technique to step up to the plate and declare, "I say water-boarding is not a form of torture, as described by national and international law. And. to prove it I am submitting myself to the process."
Let the learning begin!
And what better place to hold water-boarding demonstrations than a well — the well of House and the well of the US Senate.
Proponents who claim water-boarding is not torture because it "causes no physical injuries, leaves no marks and causes no permanent harm," should therefore have no problem, right? Climb on the water-board and take a spin.
http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/2747/81/
Sparrow:
You wrote: "What can we do to make sure that justice prevails?"
That is a good question. In smaller matters I think it tends to prevail on its own in the US. I think that, as an efficient way of resolving disputes, is one of the things that makes our US society so powerful.
On the larger matters, justice tends not to prevail except as small, almost imperceptible, changes in how we live. Over time, these changes take us to a new place where the injustices of the past become unthinkable, and we wonder: "How could we ever sacrifice people? How could we burn people for witch-craft? How could we buy and sell people?"
The real fight in those big cases are the innumerable individual epiphanies where somebody just suddenly decided, perhaps on the basis of a conversation barely overheard, to admit to themselves that something fundamentally hurtful, wrong and unfair is going on. Usually, this means withdrawing support form the injustice rather than actively opposing it.
That is not to say that such large changes didn't sometimes involve cataclysms to move forward, such as a war or a revolution. In such cases it is clear what a person ought to do (that's my theory of war, in fact -- people get to a point where they are willing to sacrifice reason and justice for moral clarity in order to relieve social tensions). But even in such cases, and the more common ones such as this problem with the Bush administration we had, for justice, in a larger sense, to prevail, people of good will just have to be patient, keep to their principles, and enunciate those principles clearly and frequently.
Chuck in Houston
Chuck in Houston
Just as long as Georgie and his Administration, are charged with war crimes, for his illegal war and occupation against the millions of innocent citizens, and they were innocent citizens, of Iraq.
Just because a country is so powerfull, does not give it the privilege, of being exempt, for being charged with the crimes that are committed by them, on the International Community.
I guess you can't make bullying death cries without consequence for ever.
Iranians celebrate US embassy siege
Tehran
November 5, 2007
Thousands of young Iranians proclaimed "Death to America" yesterday as they celebrated the 28th anniversary of the storming of the US embassy in Tehran by student radicals.
A massive crowd, composed mainly of schoolchildren bussed in to central Tehran, gathered outside the site of the former US embassy, known locally as the "Den of Spies".
"Death to America, death to Israel," the young people shouted, wearing bibs that depicted the burning of the US and Israeli flags.
A major shadow is still cast by the seizure of the embassy on November 4, 1979 in the wake of the Islamic revolution that toppled pro-US shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/iranians-celebrate-us-embassy-siege/2007/11/04/1194117875720.html
It is almost Tuesday here and I must say that I'm anticipating big things in the US congress, Tuesday your time. Go Dennis!
It's Monday here and Eve Tetaz has begun to serve her seven-day jail sentence. But she wanted us all to read this statement:
Dear Friends,
As I begin my 7 day sentence in DC Jail for peacefully and non- violently protesting the US invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq, I wish to appeal to the American people to join together as one voice in opposing the illegal and immoral actions of our leaders whom we have elected to act in our name. We are a nation of law governed by the Constitution that begins with the words "We the people…" When our leaders betray our trust by committing crimes against humanity in the waging of a war that has been condemned by international law, the highest religious authorities, and members of our own military, I believe that we must declare before the world, NOT IN MY NAME. When the government advocates the use of such tactics as rendition and torture to further their ends, we must shout, NOT IN MY NAME.
As a nation made up of responsible individuals capable of making moral choices, we are obliged to admit our wrong doings in order that justice be served, and our credibility among other nations be maintained. When our leaders cease to reflect the principles upon which this country was founded, I believe it to be the duty of every American citizen to peacefully and non-violently refuse to submit to their authority, in a manner that he or she deems appropriate. I am reminded of Moses when he challenged the Children of Israel to act as moral beings and be held accountable for their actions:
"I have set before you today life and death, blessings and curses.
Choose life so that you and your descendants may live…"
My friends, today I have chosen life in the hope that my country will change course and turn from a path that will only lead to death and destruction; it is my earnest prayer that this nation will, instead, lead the way in teaching nations to turn their swords into plowshares and study war no more.
Eve Tetaz
November 5, 2007
You know that quote, how tyranny is like the coming twiglight? How it, like darkness, does not come over you all at once and how everything appears to be the same in the deepening shadows? It speaks of that moment when everything seems the same, but darkness becomes inevitable and descends...
Is it just me, or does anyone else get the feeling that moment, when we can still see through the gloom, has passed?
I don't know how long ago, but remember when I was talking about how it is now a test of faith? I keep thinking we have not a single reason to believe we will prevail, but yet, here we all are.
How much longer can this go on? What on earth will become of Us...?
I wish I had enough faith to see the answers, but this damn darkness just keeps getting in the way.
When I read Eves letter, it reminds me of how afraid I am. None of us are safe anymore, and probably never will be again.
Chuck,
I hear you! Sometimes we do have to wait for justice. But othertimes, we never receive justice.
It's never been enough for me to think that they will 'get their due' later. Or the saying, "what goes around comes around" when consequences of their actions don't immediately unfold.
I'm picking this statement of yours to show how even if you are not adamently against impeachment, and many of us here are adamently for impeachment, that we can still all hang onto our principles and work towards the things that we are in agreement about, such as: healthcare, ending the war asap, real jobs and opportunities in America and fair wages abroad.You said,
I suspect that we have 95% common ground. So let's hold onto our principles together.
I just called Kucinich office and the are totally going forward with it this time. No hesitation.
They said they appreciate all the calls in support SO CALL ALREADY!
202-225-5871
And I called pelosi and Conyers offices, both their people said the almost exact same thing 'Well, the congressman/woman has not made a decision yet." In which I said that was real strange considering they have had no less than 7 years to think about it.
So... CALL THEM TOO.
pelosi 202-225-4965
And Conyers... 202-225-5126
And then...
Call them all again before lunch, and again after lunch, and maybe again right before they shut down the phones on us.
The Washington Post Wants To Exonerate War Crimes?
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/11/the-washington-.html
Snip
" I guess the editors disapprove of war crimes, but when it might affect someone they know from cocktail parties in Bethesda, they're happy to drop the matter. "
Thanks Christy for the reminder. I will call right now. (Sorry, I'm trying to multitask at job-related work.)
PS. I emailed you. Is your email working yet?
You talked to someone, Christy? I got the machine again.
(Geez.)
Sparrow
If it hasn't bounced back to you, then it did go through but I just checked and don't have it yet. It works when it wants too.
I emailed myself not too long ago from my livingroom, it took 3 days to arrive in my inbox. I have to check the actual date everything is sent now and about one of every 3 emails takes 24 hours or longer to reach my inbox.
I still can't log onto the main blog. I don't know if it is my account but it may just be my comp.
One day I may actually talk about the really freaky stuff my comp is doing now on a daily basis when I don't care if I appear to be a paranoid crazy person. I even have a theory.
The worst part is not being able to watch videos on this comp. I have to wait for my man to get home and look them all back up on his computer. My man still tells me it is not the computer and my connection is just fine, which must mean it also is all in my head, except no one else can watch videos on here either.
I just checked again. Still not there yet.
Ok, I don't really care how it appears anymore, I have to ask...
To the people sitting somewhere reading this blog in secret for reasons that are unfathomable, do you not realize when my mouse suddenly lunges across the screen and starts clicking on my files that I CAN SEE IT A**HOLES!!!???
Yeah! And the fact it happens 20 times a day now is somewhat overzelous on your part.
Good thing I am not a porn person or I would be terribly freaking paranoid by now.
If anyone else has a wayward mouse problem, do speak up, because I am tired of feeling special.
Do you know the first time I saw it happen, do you know what file they went straight too?
It was on my other comp, and without hesitation or error they went straight for my file called Bagdhad Burning. It is the file where I kept my collection of Iraq war photos, 4 subfolders in so the kids would not accidently find them.
It went straight to them and started clicking through the pics.
At first I was just stunned, then the pics started clicking past and I reached over and just unplugged the entire comp. It happened again that night.
And ever since then, something has been wrong with my mouse.
MULKASEY NOMINATION UPDATE:
I called Senator Clinton's office about how she would vote on the Mulkasey nomination. They read a prepared statement that Clinton would oppose the nomination.
I then asked about:
FILIBUSTERING the nomination
no comment...
I then called my Senator, Carl Levin, about the Mulkasey nomination. Levin is going to release a statement this afternoon about it.
I am now advocating blocking the Mulkasey nomination and leaving the AG spot vacant until they get a decent, independent, truth-telling nominee.
Karen's liveblog of the waterboarding demo at Daily kos
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/5/93729/5043
UPDATE 1: FROM THE WATERBOARDING DEMONSTRATION
Karendc called me with the first report. It's ironic that on such a warm beautiful day in DC, they are all chilled by watching the rehearsal of the waterboarding. The victim in this demonstration is Maboud E. He is a US citizen of Iranian descent.
Just watching the rehearsal and knowing that they were NOT doing the "full Monty" they were still TERRIFIED watching it--even though they only did what can be done in good conscience.
Media has gathered to watch the demonstration.
Please feel free to post this live-blog wherever you can.
UPDATE TWO:
Lots of media is there. Code Pink, IVAW, and a group of highschoolers just walked by and got 'educated' about what waterboarding is.
Now they are doing it.
OMG--They have sat Maboud down and begin interagating him.
The police have showed up.
The cameras are videotaping this.
THey have done it twice. He's coughing and it's HORRIBLE to see.
Peaple are really disturbed. It's very horrible to watch.
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UPDATE THREE:
Maboud is ok. He is very shaken up. Water got into his lungs and he panicked. He's talking to the press right now describing how it was. Everyone at the demo is shaking and crying.
UPDATE TWO:
Lots of media is there. Code Pink, IVAW, and a group of highschoolers just walked by and got 'educated' about what waterboarding is.
Now they are doing it.
OMG--They have sat Maboud down and begin interagating him.
The police have showed up.
The cameras are videotaping this.
THey have done it twice. He's coughing and it's HORRIBLE to see.
Peaple are really disturbed. It's very horrible to watch.
UPDATE THREE:
Maboud is ok. He is very shaken up. Water got into his lungs and he panicked. He's talking to the press right now describing how it was. Everyone at the demo is shaking and crying.
Hey DCP, today's demonstration of torture was amazing. Maboud did an incredible job of explaining how he felt after swallowing water--
If this changes ANYONE's mind, it was worth it. Please let us know if you come across the story.
Christy,
Regarding your mouse...have you tried to clean the dust bunnies out of it? Usually they will stick on the aparatus that turns the wheels. If you have nails, just dig the dust out. That usually fixes the mouse problems.
If you have links to pictures or to video regarding the water-boarding please post.
On the Bill Maher show, somebody said that water-boarding had been out-lawed by the Geneva Conventions after WWI, I believe.
Chisty,
Imagine their surprise when you're just chatting about art and mucha strokes.
About the waterboarding, I agree about using the foreign press.
Glenn Beck To Get New Radio Contract For $50 Mil
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/05/business/media/05radio.html?_r=1&ref=media&oref=slogin
Rule IX
Questions of Privilege
1. Questions of privilege shall be, first, those affecting the rights of the House collectively, its safety, dignity, and the integrity of its proceedings; and second, those affecting the rights, reputation, and conduct of Members, Delegates, or the Resident Commissioner, individually, in their representative capacity only.
2. (a)(1) A resolution reported as a question of the privileges of the House, or offered from the floor by the Majority Leader or the Minority Leader as a question of the privileges of the House, or offered as privileged under clause 1, section 7, article I of the Constitution, shall have precedence of all other questions except motions to adjourn. A resolution offered from the floor by a Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner other than the Majority Leader or the Minority Leader as a question of the privileges of the House shall have precedence of all other questions except motions to adjourn only at a time or place, designated by the Speaker, in the legislative schedule within two legislative days after the day on which the proponent announces to the House his intention to offer the resolution and the form of the resolution. Oral announcement of the form of the resolution may be dispensed with by unanimous consent.
(2) The time allotted for debate on a resolution offered from the floor as a question of the privileges of the House shall be equally divided between (A) the proponent of the resolution, and (B) the Majority Leader, the Minority Leader, or a designee, as determined by the Speaker.
(b) A question of personal privilege shall have precedence of all other questions except motions to adjourn.
The privileges of the House, as distinguished from that of the individual Member, include questions relating to its constitutional prerogatives in respect to revenue legislation and appropriations. The constitutional prerogatives of the House also include its function with respect to: (1) impeachment and matters incidental thereto
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_house_rules_manual&docid=hruletx-66
Tried to locate any articles about today's demonstation, instead I discovered this older version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2v5J9Vk6gY
Waterboarding is a sick practice and I hope the people who saw you today saw that.
Sparrow, still no email. If it didn't bounce back to you then I am still waiting.
And, it can't actually be a dusty mouse cause I have already been through two new mouses since then. I do hope they enjoy the art though.
And yup, I did get a real live person in both offices this morning but now I keep getting the machine too.
I think we should all make it a point to pray for Mr. Kucinich tonight. We all need a miracle.
Conyers files contempt report; says White House has one last chance
White House says 'futile' contempt filing 'won't go anywhere'
House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) filed a report today holding that two White House officials are in contempt of Congress for their continued refusal to honor subpoenas in connection with the controversial firing of US attorneys last year -- but he's offering one last chance to make a deal.
In a Monday letter to White House Counsel Fred Fielding, Conyers wrote that he would be officially filing submitting the contempt report, a move which would allow the full House to later vote on the measure, but would stop the contempt process there if the White House would agree to a final compromise offer.
“I have written to you on eight previous occasions attempting to reach agreement on this matter,” Conyers says in the letter. “As we submit the Committee’s contempt report to the full House, I am writing one more time to seek to resolve this issue on a cooperative basis.”
The 862-page contempt resolution was filed with the House clerk Monday afternoon.
But White House Press Secretary Dana Perino told reporters Monday that an effort to bring a contempt citation to a vote was "futile."
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Conyers_to_file_contempt_report_says_1105.html
WATERBOARDING DEMONSTRATION AT THE SENATE OFFICE BUILDING:
(could someone post this video at the Democratic Underground filled with radical DLCers...LOL)
Christy,
Maybe I missmailed.
Is anyone going on the teleconference tonight?
Christy, it sounds like the White House is arrogantly sure of itself here, doesn't it?
They think they will get away with the same old.
This makes me wonder if Conyers and others are finally willing to crank up the heat to impeach!
(Please God, let it be so!!!!!)
Ok. I tried to sign in 5 minutes early to the conference but it's full.
Hope that's a great sign.
WILL THE DEMS FILIBUSTER MULKASEY???:
Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) betrayed the Constitution and embraced waterboarding and dictatorship by announcing their support for Mukasey. But Mukasey's nomination can be defeated if 40 Democrats support a filibuster - and it takes just one Senator to start one.
So we're petitioning every Senator who claims to be a progressive leader: Joe Biden at JoeBiden.com ... Barbara Boxer at Pac for a Change ... Hillary Clinton at HillaryClinton.com ... Chris Dodd at ChrisDodd.com ... Russ Feingold at the Progressive Patriots Fund ... Ted Kennedy at the Committee for a Democratic Majority ... John Kerry at JohnKerry.com ... Barack Obama at BarackObama.com ... Harry Reid at Searchlight Leadership Fund ... Bernie Sanders at Bernie.org
http://www.democrats.com/filibuster-mukasey
Also tell your Senators to oppose Mukasey:
http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/122
Call the undecided Senators and report their responses:
http://www.democrats.com/mukasey-judiciary-whip
Join the Democratic Donor Strike against Chuck Schumer's DSCC:
http://www.democrats.com/donor-strike-2007
Tell your Senators to support Chris Dodd's filibuster of warrantless wiretapping:
http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/114
The Senate Judiciary Committee on the Mulkasey nomination:
Opposed
Joe Biden
Dick Durbin
Russ Feingold
Ted Kennedy
Pat Leahy
Sheldon Whitehouse
Undecided-call!
Ben Cardin
Herb Kohl
Support
Dianne Feinstein
Chuck Schumer
Ron Paul's Record Online Haul: $2M+ In 1 Day
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/05/post_179.html
Slogans for the Republican candidates for prez:
Fred Thompson: FREDDIE THE FREE-LOADER
GiulianI: IT'S GIULIANI TIME!!!
(and my favorite)
Romney: MITT HAPPENS!!!!!!
The Ron Paul-heads are absolutely going wild at You Tube. But I sense that they are newbies (like most of the Dean folks were) and many are not Republicans and have been previously inactive.
My simple question for Ron Paul and his Paul-heads is "Where were you guys in 2004?" (supporting Bush?? and the war???)
Ralpheh
Yeah we were just talking about the PaulHeads raising 2 or was it 3 million in just 24 hours and I agree they are newbies/formerly apoliticals. The ones I've seen here seem to be. Probably there is something about the message of the less prominent candidates in that they have less to lose and may come across as more authentic.
I was strangely amused by some of the headlines, like Time Magazine saying "Bush Talks Kinda Tough With Pakistan" and SF Chronicle's "Colbert Ends White House Bid: A Nation Tries To Heal."
I was reading where the Dem primary contest is tightening and what would really allow any of them to win the general is if a third party candidate arose who opposed abortion completely. That would split the ticket just enough to make the two big parties less close, therefore the election more difficult to rig.
I personally don't care who anyone voted for in 2000 or 2004. What matters is where they are at today and if they are willing to stop the spread of corruption in our government and turn back the clock on executive power.
In case anyone actually WATCHES the video above, it features Richard, our friend Marietta, and the victim is Maboud, who was in FEAR UP (both the DC and the NY Fringe productions).
It was a horrible and challenging day for all of us.
What happened with the Kucinich conference call? Anyone got any info on it?
According to MSNBC, we're not activists, we're mere "dissidents." That also makes it official - this is no longer a democracy, as a democracy has opponents, not dissidents.
Dissident Democrats fume, but lack recourse:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21636290/
Karen, soon as my man gets home, if he gets in tonight, I will have to switch to his computer to watch them. I don't really want too, but I want to see it for myself, not done by some candy news anchor trying to justify it.
And btw, I have been buying what you are pimpin, so...does that make me a 'blogho' too?
One can only hope.
Ralpheh
I don't support Ron Paul, and never will, but he has some good ideas that leading candidates of BOTH major parties ought to examine.
Hey Ally, not sure why you are surprised.
Pelosi herself said we are 'advocates', and SHE is 'the leader'.
We are not 'citizens' to any of them born with inalienable rights anymore. We are simply a bother and a burden that they have to figure out how to silence, so they can do whatever the hell they want to do.
They= the entire DC establishment, including democrats.
It is like the ENTIRE government has turned against all of US. We are what they say we are.
I think everyone currently in our government, maybe with the exception of Kucinich, SHOULD BE FIRED. All of them. From georgie all the way down to the damn clerk calling out names at roll call.
And Kucinich should only be spared because he is obviously the only one left who is willing to do his damn job. The fact it took so long though is unforgivable.
Fire them all and lets find some farmers and scientists who want to be elevated.
I was reading where the Dem primary contest is tightening and what would really allow any of them to win the general is if a third party candidate arose who opposed abortion completely. That would split the ticket just enough to make the two big parties less close, therefore the election more difficult to rig.
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I sense that Ron Paul is something of an opportunist: he is saying in effect, "do you hate what George Bush, Dick Cheney and the Republicans have done for the past 6 years??? If you do, vote for me, another Republican!!!! But I am a different kind of Republican"
The thing about Paul is that he comes across as far more genuine and consistent and coherent than Hillary or even Obama.
I do care what people did in 2004 - I worked very, very hard to defeat George Bush in 2004. Many of the Paul-heads did not bother to vote in 2004 (or perhaps they voted FOR Bush??). Ron Paul didn't bother to run - it was too inconvenient and difficult.
Sparrow, did your email to me bounce back to you?
Still not here. And I can't 'send' again.
If it does not go through, and if it is not terribly private, we can speak on my comments section on my art blog.
http://www.christysartblog.blogspot.com/
HILLARY, OBAMA, DODD, BIDEN HAVE ALL CAVED???
NO FILIBUSTER???????????????????????
No Mukasey filibuster in view
But as of Monday afternoon, no Democratic senator had indicated that he or she would launch a filibuster, which would kill the nomination by blocking it from coming to a vote.
Clark Kissinger, a veteran left-wing activist and one of the organizers of Monday’s mock waterboarding event, said he wasn’t surprised that Schumer and Feinstein pushed Mukasey’s nomination over the top.
“The modus operandi of the Democrats has been to allow their presidential candidates to come out against evil, while the Democrats assured that there were enough votes in Congress to ensure that the evil progressed,” he said.
“They hold out the carrot to Democratic voters that maybe there’ll be some changes if Democrats get elected.”
Ebrahimzadeh said he agreed to play the water boarding victim because he wanted “people to see exactly what it is before they come to a full understanding.”
He said he was “very much surprised” that Feinstein and Schumer would support Mukasey. “This is supposed to be a democracy; we elect people who are supposed to represent us and represent our
Ralph, I thought Paul was a libertarian.. or am I confusing him with Gravel?
And I take it that Kerry won't go out on a limb and filibuster????
Kennedy or Byrd...??? the old men....
How sad..
Christy
Fresh blood is always a good thing. Politics tends to corrupt those involved in it. After all, power corrupts - and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Both major parties are corrupt, and even minor parties are not immune to corruption (if you remember Ralph Nader taking campaign contributions from the W campaign in 2000).
Power needs to be returned to the PEOPLE and those truly accountable to them, not career politicians. Even Kucinich has his baggages, from his days as mayor of Cleveland.
Again, it's one thing to not impeach, but another thing to not even start the investigations that may/may not lead to impeachment. And a party that ignores its base is doomed to failure - the contrasting fortunes of the Republicans and the Democrats since 1980 should make it crystal clear to anybody.
I got your email on Rome - will get back to you after work tomorrow (I report to work by 5AM tomorrow, so gotta hit the bed soon).
Ralpheh
Many of the Paul-heads didn't vote in 2004 because they probably were not even eligible in the first place (i.e. high school students then, college now).
We sometimes need strategic alliances with people we disagree with. Look at white supremacists and black ministers coming together to shove homophobic legislations down our throats, for example - if they enter marriages of convenience to strengthen their common causes, so must we.
Christy said:
Ralph, I thought Paul was a libertarian.. or am I confusing him with Gravel?
No
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On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, Ron Paul is a Republican.
On Tuesdays and Thursdays he is a Libertarian
LOL
a camilleon
Ralpheh
I wouldn't draw conclusions so fast. This is still fresh development. Give Kerry, Kennedy, etc. time - at least they represent a true blue state, not a fake one like California.
Christy
The correct term is libertarian on social issues, NEOLIBERAL on economic issues. And of all the political labels out there, my least favorite is NEOLIBERAL.
Christy
The Democrats, to their credit, are doing one right thing in my congressional district (CA-42) - they are running a candidate who is an aerospace engineer with good ideas, NOT a crook/career politician that the incumbent Republican, Gary Miller, is.
Miller himself got his seat only because his predecessor, another Republican (Jay C. Kim), was a Moonie crook with severe ethical problems.
I will move to another, less red district before the 2008 general election. But I will come back to campaign for the Democrat, Ron Shepston.
Hmmm... interesting thing I just came across.
Midge Potts, one of Karen's friends from CodePink, is transgender. Just found that out from a Facebook group I am a member of, along with a link to her website.
Potts is a transgender Republican, but that's where her similarities to Mann Coulter seem to end.
www.midgepotts.com
Ralph
A camillion, Great, just what we need in DC, another reptile.
Wow - interesting commentary on here, culminating with the statement that our government seems to have turned against us, that no one will filibuster, that candidates who can never win are nevertheless getting impressive followings
especially since you know I don't watch tv in the regular way
it's just that I was at the gym and MSNBC was on without the sound, very surreal because a guy in a military haircut was glued to it, and we all had music on because that's what we do, each in our own little word of reps and sets
Anyway - it was all about Pakistan. & of course they called it a "State of Emergency" because that's what military dictator Musharaf calls it, rather than what it really is - "Martian Law"
& people were being rounded up - it was more impressive without sound. It looked modern, like an American or European city, and the people being rounded up and arrested were wearing suits. They were lawyers, not bearded radicals in robes. Yuppies in suits.
I suddenly got the feeling that we were seeing our own future.
& then I saw the talking heads with their mouths moving but no sound - Bush and Turkey's Ertegun, Condi Rice & whatever dignitary she was talking to about the mess in Israel/Pakistan. & my thought was, "What can you possibly do to improve the situation?"
The only small justice is that Bush can't spend much time at the ranch because he is forced to try to deal with these things, even though he is not only no help but we are in so deep we can't get out & we have made problems for other nations.
They are between a rock and a hard place and no candidate from either party will have a solution either. As Frank Rich wrote about yesterday, here we have people like Cheney plotting to try to stop Iran from getting a small nuclear bomb in about ten years and
meanwhile,
Pakistan ALREADY HAS the bomb, fully functioning and state-of-the-art, suitable to use on India or Israel and what can we do about it? We can't even GET to Bin Laden & Musharraf can't be made to do anything about it either. & poor Bhutto, standing there with tears in her eyes - what good did it do her to come back?
As Time magazine said, Bush "kinda" told Musharaf to shape up. What leverage does he possibly have? They can buy and sell all they want to/from North Korea. What was Bush thinking, getting involved with a military dictator? Taking lessons?
What is he going to be able to do about Turkey? Ask them nicely not to round up the PKK across the border in Iraqi Kuristan? Threats didn't work against anybody and neither did force, & now it may be too late for diplomacy, assuming we even had any practice or skill at it.
Nmp,
Rereading your post is like reading a nightmare scenario.
When you put it all together like that, it is almost useless to try to respond in words. I mean, we are totally f'kd and there is no one left to save anybody.
My friend Eve, 76, does time for peace
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_pete_per_071104_my_friend_eve_2c_76_2c_d.htm
Oh god! I know what waterboarding feels like. The time before last when I was in hospital a junior nurse was putting in a nasal-gastric tube and I started choking. I've had so many of them that they don't even make me cough or gag any more. I couldn't stop choking and coughing and trying to pull it away from her.
She angrily told me to stop coughing and sit still. A senior nurse was there watching and suddenly she took the tube from the young nurse and stuck it into a glass of water and the water bubbled hard. The tube was removed from my lung. That entire sequence took perhaps 30 seconds. And it terrified me.
The senior nurse put it in - to the right destination - with no coughing on my part - and I've decided that I don't let anyone practice that trick on me - only the experienced.
Imagine this going on over a longer period. Truly hideous.
Christy
Sorry to sound depressing. I sent a copy of that post to a friend in OR and she said that Pakistan not only has the bomb, but is one of the top nuclear powers and we are watching the world unravel and have a hand in propping of the bad power elements in the mix.
She told me that Gisele (the highest paid model) must now be paid only in Euros, Putin has lost his sense of humor, and China's state oil company is worth twice as much as Exxon. That Darth Cheney has a map of Iran only, on his war tabel, w/o respect to other geopolitical markers, with his imagined pot of God.
She wonders what we can do to stop it and further says that ten years ago, if something happened like is happening in Pakistan, there would be a convention of world powers conferencing on Malta or somewheres. That the world would be on a state of alert and India must be having night sweats.
Should we be informed or just wake up and be surprised someone has been nuked, she asks. First thing in the morning.
Called Obama's office on filibuster of Mulkasey... no comment, basically.
Will call
Dodd
Biden
Clinton
on filibuster
The vote on Mulkasey in committee is supposed to be today.
hmm conyers office was quite curt and not at all happy.Pelosi's let me leave a message. I thanked Kucinich's staff
Does anyone have a picture of this woman???:
The times she has been arrested this year:
∑ Eve was arrested with 88 others inside the Federal Courthouse in D.C. on January 11th (marking five years that Guantanamo has been holding “detainees” as enemy combatants).
∑ She was arrested inside Senator McCain’s office, with nine others, pleading he turn away from warmongering and pursue peace.
∑ Eve was arrested inside the Hart Senate Office Building, with six others; a graveyard was erected and they read names of those killed during the war in Iraq.
∑ She was arrested with 221 others on a bitterly cold night in front of the White House, as part of the Christian Peace Witness.
∑ Eve was arrested with three others in the hallway immediately outside of Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office. They were singing songs of peace and urging the congressional leader to vote against any further war funding.
∑ Following a march from the federal courthouse, where the defendants from the January 11th action had their case dismissed, Eve was arrested with 13 others dressed in orange jumpsuits and black hoods. They chained themselves to the White House fence. They demanded the unconstitutional detentions in Guantanamo cease, and that habeas corpus be restored.
∑ Eve, along with 32 others on the day after Mother’s Day, were arrested in the middle of the intersection of New Jersey Avenue and Independence Avenue. She knelt on the pavement praying for peace as she was arrested.
∑ In July, she was arrested twice while wearing sackcloth and doused with ashes – ancient symbols of mourning. She said she was representing “Rachel mourning for her children because they were no more.” The first arrest action was in front of the White House, and within a couple hours the Park Police released her. Friends met her and they walked to Capitol Hill where she violated a stay away order. She was arrested after entering the Hart Building, and requested a meeting with Senator Hillary Clinton. She has since sent the New York senator a letter concerning the illegal and immoral war and occupation in Iraq and continues to wait for a response.
∑ During a visit to the Pentagon with a group of Catholic Workers, Eve was arrested with three others while trying to grow nutritious vegetables on land defiled by policies of death and destruction.
Freaking Hell!
Shumer and Fienstien announced their torture boy cave so that THE LEFT would not have time to mobilize a response over the weekend.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/schumer-feinstein-surprise-thwarts-efforts-on-mukasey-2007-11-06.html
I am no longer a democrat. I am not a freaking lemming either.
Just say from now on, I am an independent, I don't care what my voter registration says.
And Sparrow, I am still waiting on that email.
Soon as it shows up though I will respond.
Hey all... time for you to send out good karma and prayers for our favorite monkey. Some of you know that he was diagnosed with Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome earlier this year. He and his family were visiting relatives in Florida this last weekend and he had another episode which put him in the hospital over the weekend. He's been discharged and is on bed-rest and has surgery scheduled for Friday (admitting him on Thursday evening). He only has dialup at the moment and therefore, limited access to the internet.
I'll keep you posted as I hear more.
I was wondering where you are Monkey.
Good gracious my friend. We love you Monkey.
I will try sending good vibes. If you feel a tingling in your toes, it's not the meds, it's just us worshipping at your feet.
Feinstein on Waterboarding and Mulkasey:
“I will vote to confirm Michael Mukasey to be our next Attorney General.
First and foremost, Michael Mukasey is not Alberto Gonzales. Rather, he has forged an independent life path as a practitioner of the law and a federal judge in the Southern District of New York.
In this capacity, he has presided over 1,600 cases over 19 years.
He has developed extensive experience on national security issues.
And he has presided over a dozen national security cases – including United States v. Rahman (1994), Padilla v. Bush (2002), and In re Application of the United States for a Material Witness Warrant (2002) -- and 10 defendants from the Rahman case were given prison sentences ranging from 25 years to life.
Judge Mukasey’s answers to hundreds of questions, both in our confirmation hearing and in writing, were crisp and succinct, and demonstrated a strong, informed, and independent mind.
I truly believe he will be a strong Attorney General and will represent the best interests of the American people.
The Justice Department is in desperate need of effective leadership. The Department is leaderless, and 10 of its top positions are vacant. Morale among U.S. Attorneys needs to be restored, priorities reassessed, and a new dynamic of independence from the White House forged.
I believe that Judge Mukasey is the best we will get and voting him down would only perpetuate acting and recess appointments, allowing the Administration to avoid the transparency that confirmation hearings provide and diminish effective oversight by Congress.
Yet, serious questions have been raised about Judge Mukasey’s views on torture and on separation of powers. These are important questions.
Regarding torture, Judge Mukasey clearly expressed his personal repugnance in the hearing. And in a letter of October 30, 2007, he reiterated his personal views and described in detail the analysis he would undertake if confirmed. He wrote:
‘I understand also the importance of the United States remaining a nation of laws and setting a high standard of respect for human rights. Indeed, I said at the hearing that torture violates the law and the Constitution, and the President may not authorize it as he is no less bound by constitutional restrictions than any other government official.
I was asked at the hearing and in your letter questions about the hypothetical use of certain coercive interrogation techniques. As described in your letter, these techniques seem over the line or, on a personal basis, repugnant to me, and would probably seem the same to many Americans. But hypotheticals are different from real life, and in any legal opinion the actual facts and circumstances are critical.’
Specifically, on the subject of ‘waterboarding,’ Judge Mukasey wrote:
‘I do know…that ‘waterboarding’ cannot be used by the United States military because its use by the military would be a clear violation of the Detainee Treatment Act (‘DTA’). That is because ‘waterboarding’ and certain other coercive interrogation techniques are expressly prohibited by the Army Field Manual on Intelligence Interrogation, and Congress specifically legislated in the DTA that no person in the custody or control of the Department of Defense (DOD) or held in a DOD facility may be subject to any interrogation techniques not authorized and listed in the manual.’
As Judge Mukasey wrote, ‘waterboarding’ is clearly against the law for the American military. ‘Waterboarding’ is clearly prohibited by the Convention Against Torture and the Geneva Conventions. It was again prohibited by the Detainee Treatment Act, which only covers military interrogations.
Congress should go further and explicitly ban ‘waterboarding’ and other so-called enhanced interrogation techniques for all parts of the government.
Both Senators Kennedy and Biden have introduced legislation to this effect.
I believe we should put one of those bills in the FISA legislation now under consideration in the Judiciary Committee. Once this law is enacted, the Attorney General would be required to enforce it, and Judge Mukasey’s answers give every reason to believe that he would.
Yet, I believe that if he is confirmed, after he has had an opportunity to review the legal opinions and form his own views, that the Judiciary Committee should ask Judge Mukasey back and discuss this issue further.
Finally, I do not believe a President can be ‘above the law,’ and neither does Judge Mukasey. In addition Judge Mukasey explained that his view on executive power is based on a Youngstown analysis (Youngstown Sheet & Tube Company v. Sawyer 1952). Justice Jackson wrote in Youngstown that the President’s power is greatest when he is backed by a statute, and at its lowest ebb when his actions conflict with a statute. But that framework does not provide a final answer to every dispute that arises between the branches. Instead, some disagreements between the branches must eventually be resolved by the Judiciary.
Bottom line: I hope that Judge Mukasey will fairly and even-handedly represent the American people, and direct the Department wherever the facts and the law lead, not where the White House dictates.
Our nation needs a strong and independent Attorney General, and I believe that Judge Mukasey will rise to the challenge.”
Thanks dwahzon for letting us know! Gads, we need our monkey back!
Please, dear monkey, do take care of yourself and come back soon!
A week ago this time I was in the hospital just finishing up a stress test and I was released that evening. Two days before in ER (then an ambulance ride to a different hospital) I'd been diagnosed with bundle branch block, high blood pressure (on meds, still not regulated properly), and they were checking for unstable angina. NO heart attack, but precisely a week before that my (younger) brother did have a mild heart attack and two stents put in his heart. Two siblings with different heart-related problems, just a week apart; what are the odds? I'll be doctoring for a while, but have been mostly taking it VERY easy for the last week. I have good days and bad days, but mostly I'm just taking it very, very easy.
The recent political news about Chuckie and DiFi has about made me apopletic. Jeez. WHAT were they thinking?!?
I'm listening to the House on C-SPAN and the fools are talking about a resolution having to do with baseball. Are they effing NUTS?!?!? I'm waiting and waiting for Kucinich to bring up impeachment, the one thing that is vitally important to this nation, and the idiots are talking about baseball?!? No wonder we have such a mell of a hess! I SO want out of this damned surreal painting...!
Some things I gleaned from this morning's news. I love Keith Olbermann.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21644133/
The presidency is now a criminal conspiracy
Olbermann: Bush may not observe the rules, but the country abides by them
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/05/special-comment-george-bushs-criminal-conspiracy-of-torture/
Special Comment: George Bush’s Criminal Conspiracy of Torture
{{{Same video, no stupid ads to endure to watch.}}}
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/05/project-censoreds-top-25-censored-stories-of-2008/
Project Censored’s Top 25 Censored Stories of 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/opinion/06schumer.html
A Vote for Justice
Excerpt:
Judge Mukasey’s refusal to state that waterboarding is illegal was unsatisfactory to me and many other members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. But Congress is now considering — and I hope we will soon pass — a law that would explicitly ban the use of waterboarding and other abusive interrogation techniques. And I am confident that Judge Mukasey would enforce that law.
On Friday, he personally made clear to me that if the law were in place, the president would have no legal authority to ignore it — not even under some theory of inherent authority granted by Article II of the Constitution, as Vice President Cheney might argue. Nor would the president be able to evade a clear pronouncement on the subject from the courts. Judge Mukasey also pledged to enforce such a law.
{{{What? Has Chuckie never read US Code, Title 18? The Constitution or the Bill of Rights or the Geneva Conventions or the Nuremberg Judgment... all of which outlaw torture of every kind already (and we all know waterboarding has been considered torture since at least going back to the Spanish Inquisition)? Even above Mukasey's disturbing inability to declare a torture practice as illegal was his refusal to state unequivocally that there are limits to presidential power under our Constitution. Chuckie's "justification" for his decision to vote in favor of Mukasey is just as idiotic as DiFi's saying she's voting for Mukasey "because he's not Alberto Gonzales." Clearly, whatever minds they had they've lost.}}}
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-garbus/mukaseys-confirmation-wi_b_71175.html
Mukasey's Confirmation Will be a Disaster
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-hipp/waterboard-waterboard_b_71152.html
Water-Board! Water-Board!
{{{Video.}}}
Baseball here too.
Good to see you Nonny.
This is unfreakingbelievable.
Kucinich is on the floor of the House now, speaking about impeaching Cheney....
C-Span 1 live coverage...
Democracy Now this morning covered the waterboarding yesterday:
http://democracynow.org/streampage.pl
The staory is about 5:00 in.
Regarding Kucinich, now what?
We should all call his offices to thank him and show support.
202-225-5871
Sparrow.
Go look at my art blog. I left you something.
What am I seeing on TV? Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing?
Dems are trying to kill it, republicans almost helped then...WTF am I seeing?
Dems are trying to kill it, republicans almost helped then...WTF am I seeing?
I have not seen it, but I would say they are doing exactly what is par for the course, since they where voted into power to work for the people.
It passed, with republicans voting for it
What the hell is going on?
Friking crazy Republicans, and it took republicans to pass it, instead of Dems unbelievable.
Is that what is going down?
Get well soon Monkey, thinking of you.
waterboarding on MSNBC
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=66f73154-d67a-4f85-a481-3465e7ceaf87
Going to the judiciary committee
When will they ever Learn,
House Republicans vote against Democratic-led move to table Cheney impeachment measure
In an unexpected move, Republicans in the House of Representatives on Tuesday voted against a measure to table debate on an impeachment measure brought by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH).
The motion had been brought by House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD), who sought to effectively kill the resolution.
"Impeachment is not on the agenda," Rep. Hoyer had told Fox News earlier."We have some major priorities. We need to focus on those."
Although the roll call vote had initially appeared to favor Hoyer's motion to table, Congressional Quarterly's Ed Epstein told CSPAN that Republicans had switched their votes at the last minute in an attempt to embarrass the Democratic leadership, who is not keen on seeing further action on the impeachment resolution.
The final vote count on the measure was 251-162. Another vote is now underway as to whether the resolution should be forwarded to the House Judiciary Committee.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_not_stopping_with_Cheney_plans_1106.html
We love you Monkey
Oh yes we do
We love you Monkey
And we'll be true
When you're not with us
We're blue
Oh Monkey WE LOVE YOU!
EEEK EEEK!
MSNBC:Ron Paul sets one-day fundraising record 'in the name of a terrorist'
On November 5, Paul's supporters raised over $4 million -- breaking the one-day record of any other Republican
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Ron_Paul_sets_single_day_fundraising_1106.html
What in the crap is going on in DC cause I swear I watched it and it seemed REALLY FREAKING CRAZY to me.
Wow.
Tuesday: 6 GIs, 17 Iraqis Killed; 8 Iraqis Wounded
Monday: 34 Iraqis Killed, 12 Wounded
Sunday: 93 Iraqis Killed, 67 Wounded
Saturday: 2 US Soldiers, 29 Iraqis Killed; 41 Iraqis Wounded
Friday: 3 US Airmen, 1 Polish Soldier, 21 Iraqis Killed; 9 Iraqis Wounded
Thursday: 3 GIs, 61 Iraqis Killed; 45 Iraqis Wounded
Wednesday: 94 Iraqis Killed, 20 Wounded
Tuesday: 3 GIs, 31 Iraqis Killed; 31 Iraqis Wounded
Archives http://antiwar.com/updates/
Wow.
Talk about GOP arrogance, Bring It ON
The question is, Are the Dems going to bring it on?
Repubs want to embarass Dems over the impeachment vote, thats why they've enouraged it to move fwd, simple as that... they want America to see that Dems dont want to do anything but ivestigate,and believe bringing the discussion out into the open will put Dems on record as being for gridlock... Conyers even said today he wont support it cuz there's other important work to do... its a bunch of bullshit, as usual, and a calculated move by Repubs to hang Dems out to dry... which Dems have proven they can do on their own.
Thanks to all for the good wishes, will be checking in as I can over the next few days and will let you know how things go on Friday.
Have heart, will travel.
Judge Allows Abuse Lawsuit Against Firm
(11-06) 13:23 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --
A federal judge allowed a lawsuit to proceed Tuesday against private defense firm CACI International Inc., whose interrogators are accused of abusing detainees at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/11/06/national/w125110S63.DTL&type=politics
2007 Deadliest for US Troops in Iraq
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071106/us_nm/iraq_usa_soldiers_dc
Tue Nov 6, 11:39 AM ET
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Seven U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq on Monday, the U.S. military said, making 2007 the deadliest year for U.S. forces in the country.
The deaths, one of the highest daily tolls in weeks, took the number of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq this year to 853. The worst previous year was 2004, when 849 deaths were recorded.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071106/us_nm/iraq_usa_soldiers_dc
its a bunch of bullshit, as usual, and a calculated move by Repubs to hang Dems out to dry... which Dems have proven they can do on their own.
*******
Right on Monkey
"We're going to help them out, to explain themselves," said Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas. "We're going to give them their day in court."
Democrats countered by offering a motion to refer the proposal to the House Judiciary Committee for further study, effectively preventing a debate on the House floor. That motion passed by a largely party-line vote of 218-194.
The White House, in a statement, said Democrats were shirking responsibilities on issues such as childrens' health insurance "and yet they find time to waste an afternoon on an impeachment vote against the vice president. ... This is why Americans shake their head in wonder about the priorities of this Congress."
Kucinich has long pushed for a vote to impeach Cheney, but has failed to win the backing of the Democratic leadership. After Kucinich introduced the resolution, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., immediately moved to table it.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said "impeachment is off the table" and Congress is focused on responsibly getting U.S. troops out of Iraq, covering 10 million uninsured children and meeting national priorities long neglected by the Bush administration, said her spokesman Nadeam Elshami.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21659371/from/RS.4/
monkey
Did not know of your condition. Get well soon, and I hope that the nation's broken healthcare system does not fail you.
Christy
I'm as fed up as anyone.
I decided that I will be a Democrat for the primary, in order to vote for someone other than Hillary. I may go back to independent status for the general election (since I'll be moving in the meantime, and will need to re-register anyway).
Nonny, Christy
MLB is a whole bunch of overpaid theocratic crooks. Look at the way they've switched over to "God Bless America" after 9/11 - PERMANENTLY. Look at the way the Rockies do blatantly Christian themed game nights. Look at the way Curt Shilling shills for W.
I will never watch another baseball game for the rest of my life.
And I am damn sick of CHRISTIANS imagining threats where there are few, and ignoring real threats, and starting phony holy wars based on them.
I am damn sick of their antisocial attitude toward the global community.
Any copies of the Death Book that I can get my hands on, WILL BE BURNED.
I'm also off of the MoveOn mailing list, as well.
Sarko is on an official visit to the US:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7082092.stm
Euro sets new record against the US dollar:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7081256.stm
All F-15s grounded in the US:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7081737.stm
The latter two are really lousy news for the US. The first - well, W is happy to have a new ally, but Sarko will still have a few issues to lecture the US on.
Hey Monkey
http://christysartblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/monkey-ball-2008.html
Christy,
I can't figure out how to post on your blog, but I think it's her neck (if you're looking for suggestions).
In the original, when I look closely I think the neck goes all the way to the collar, it's just deeply shaded.
In yours, if you make the neck thicker it might change the thin feel of her.
But then, what do I know?
Did anybody listen to Kucinich's list of indictments of Cheney?
It was quite long and very damning..
It would be nice if the MS media were to report the charges against Cheney........
LOL
Hey...no dissing the drummer.
New beat..new thread
Didn't you know we're in Iraq, Lieberman says so..
Lieberman Declares Mission Accomplished: ‘The Tide Has Turned In Iraq,’ ‘We Are Winning’
The U.S. military announced the death of six soldiers yesterday, “taking the number of deaths this year to 851 and making 2007 the deadliest year of the war for American troops.”
While the violence rages in Iraq, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) is ready to declare mission accomplished. Yesterday, speaking to an audience who greeted him with “warm applause,” Lieberman declared that the U.S. was turning the corner in Iraq:
“I’m proud to say that the tide has turned in Iraq and we’re winning that war,” Lieberman said. “And if we don’t let down our troops, they’re going to bring home a victory that will protect us here at home from today’s threat — totalitarian terrorist Islamism that’s trying to take our liberty from us.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/lieberman-winning-iraq/