Let the Truth Be Told!

sparrow, this is all very believable, but how do we get all the information Sibel has to blow the whistle on. Is she giving the details to foreign press? I hope so.

SPEAK SIBEL SPEAK!!

Let the cards fall where they may.

Folks sorry about any thing wrong in the thread header above. My computer (internet) keeps shutting down. It's possessed...little gremlins playing with the little C++ codes.

Lenna, of the Ontario Four, and her parents arrived this evening.

WILL the car be released tomorrow? It's only been a MONTH!!

Inquiring minds want to know--what will tomorrow bring?

Karen, I only caught bits of the Ontario Four saga. Can I have a little summary, please?

Here's a little light-hearted stuff. I don't think the kayakers would agree that it's light hearted, though. So far they've had some help from the CSIRO, NASA and the European Space Agency and they're only a quarter of the way.

Sydney kayakers back in the paddle
Arjun Ramachandran
November 20, 2007 - 3:14PM

Constantly soaked, they've been paddling a week and the salt water is beginning to eat away their skin.

Seas of up to five metres high have also lashed their custom-built kayak, as they paddle an average of 12 hours a day in very hot temperatures.

But, despite the fatigue and discomfort, Sydney adventurers James Castrission, 25, and Justin Jones, 24 are in "high spirits" 600 kilometres into their 2200-kilometre kayak marathon from Sydney to New Zealand.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/sydney-kayakers-back-in-the-paddle/2007/11/20/1195321760671.html

Georgia Church Rocked By Sex Scandal: Archbishop Fathered Child With Brother's Wife

Sex Scandal Hits Atlanta-Area Megachurch

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071119/preacher-paternity/

Better watch out Brazil, Georgie will be invading you next.

Brazil Is Newest Oil Superstar With "Monstrous" New Oil Find

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/nov2007/db20071115_045316.htm?chan=rss_topStories_ssi_5

NOLA Public Housing Demolitions Set for December: Call for National Support!

by new orleans indymedia team Friday, Nov. 16, 2007 at 8:12 PM

Many activists believe New Orleans is a test ground for the US Government to demolish public housing across the nation and replace it with "mixed-income" developments that would displace thousands of families.

Pledge to come to New Orleans and resist this privatization of public housing!

Many activists believe New Orleans is a test ground for the US Government to demolish public housing across the nation and replace it with "mixed-income" developments. According to HANO's contracts with developers, 82% of the pre-storm units would be lost in the development process.

Yesterday the Housing Authority of New Orleans backed by the Department of Housing and Urban Development of the Federal Government told the federal judge hearing the public housing lawsuit that the demolition of all four
complexes will start in mid-December.

Judge Ivan Lemelle responded by saying he will not prevent the demolitions from occurring. The unilateral decision forced Bill Quigley and the rest of the lawyers representing some of the public housing resident plaintiffs
to appeal to the US District Court of Appeals. The hearing on November 28 would delay any action until the appeal is heard in court.

In a grassroots email campaign, People's Hurricane Relief Fund (PHRF) and Survivor's Village issued this call for national supporters to pledge that they will come to New Orleans to defend public housing with their bodies:

"I Pledge"

I believe in the fundamental human right to housing, and I will not be a witness to the denial of this right to the peoples of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. I therefore pledge myself to resist the denial of this right
by all civil and humanitarian means available, including civil disobedience. I pledge to stand ready to take action against this imminent threat and to put myself on the line, either directly in New Orleans or in strategic locales throughout the US, in support of the demands and leadership of the peoples of New Orleans and their organizations in the
struggle for housing and human rights.

We ask that all those interested in coming to New Orleans to contact us before making the journey. We need to ensure that everyone coming is registered, properly orientated and trained in order to partake in this act of resistance in the manner determined by the local leaders and residents. Please contact us via email at action@peopleshurricane.org,
with the word "registration" in the subject line. Also, please include the following information:

Name:
Affinity Group/Organization (if applicable):
Phone:
Email:
Have you ever received any training in civil disobedience?
What skills/resources are you able to bring to New Orleans?

All making this pledge must be advised of the following:

1. As of now we do not know exactly when the demolition orders will be given. We hope to have this information within at least 48 hours of the scheduled demolition to contact you and give you sufficient time to act (including travel for residents and allies coming in from out of town).
2. Given the limited timeframe and resources of the various organizations spearheading this fight back, access to the following will be limited:

* Legal counsel and aid. All effort is and will be made to provide adequate legal support, but the reality is that it is limited at present.

* Lodging and food. Again, given the uncertain timeline and limited resources, housing venues are presently limited, but all effort will be
made to support all those making this bold pledge.

For more information, please contact the Peoples' Hurricane Relief Fund
(PHRF) at 504.301.0215 or info@peopleshurricane.org or Survivors Village
at 504.239.2907 or survivorsvillage@gmail.com.

http://www.peopleshurricane.org/news/pledge-of-resistance.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military says it has "convincing and irrefutable" evidence that an award-winning Associated Press photographer is connected to the insurgency in Iraq.

The photographer, Bilal Hussein Zaidon, faces charges in the Iraqi Central Court based on the evidence, Pentagon officials said Monday.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell and other U.S. military officials would not say directly what charges he faced. They referred reporters to the Iraqi court system.

-snip-

Morrell said the Iraqi court system would hold a hearing later this month to determine if there was enough evidence to continue to trial.

Hussein is being held by the U.S. military in Iraq.

AP chief executive officer and president Tom Curley said the agency has "grave concerns" that Hussein's rights are being "ignored and even abused" and called on the United States to release the photographer.

"The steps the U.S. military is now taking continue to deny Bilal his right to due process and, in turn, may deny him a chance at a fair trial," Curley said. "The treatment of Bilal represents a miscarriage of the very justice and rule of law that the United States is claiming to help Iraq achieve."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/photographer.detained/index.html

more media on strike
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/business/media/20strike.html?ref=us
why don't some go on strike because they're forced to tell lies or withhold information?

lots of stagehands on strike on Broadway too - how will the kids see the Grinch? my bro is a stagehand in Colo- shockingly, they are unionized in that red (hopefully turning purple) state

IOWA IN A DEAD HEAT; OBAMA, EDWARDS, CLINTON...

ABC News reports Obama in the lead in the latest poll:

A Field General Departs
An exit interview with Bush's counterterrorism chief
by Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball

Nov 19, 2007

On the day the White House announced her impending resignation, Frances Fragos Townsend, President Bush's top counterterrorism adviser, said the country is still facing a "very serious and continuing threat from Al Qaeda" that will only become worse if Congress does not pass a controversial measure giving the U.S. government expanded surveillance powers.

Calling some of the arguments against the White House-backed eavesdropping bill "ridiculous," Townsend told NEWSWEEK that the intelligence community badly needs the new law to continue monitoring communications of suspected terrorists. A temporary measure passed by Congress last summer, dubbed the Protect America Act, is due to expire next February. "This is one where partisan politics is playing a role," said Townsend about the failure of Congress to reauthorize the measure to date. "The substance is absolutely clear. We need this."

-snip-

Townsend said today that while "there is no perfect time" to leave, she feels strongly that "the country is safer" than it was before September 11, in part because of efforts President Bush has made to restructure the intelligence community, the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and other steps.

Yet just last July (when Congress was first debating the expanded surveillance bill), Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff made headlines by saying that he had a "gut feeling" that the country might get attacked again over the summer. Asked how that comment squared with her assertion today that the country was safer, Townsend said that Chertoff's comments were a "veiled reference" to the impending release of a new National Intelligence Estimate last summer—which concluded that Al Qaeda's core organization was reconstituting itself in the tribal areas in northwest Pakistan. That threat was still serious, Townsend said. "There is going to be a serious and continuous threat for many years," she said. "If that was the test, I would be here until my old age."

more on...
http://www.newsweek.com/id/71333

OH MAN!

President Bush, Karl Rove, and other top administration officials were "involved" in misleading the White House press corps about the outing of ex-CIA agent Valerie Plame, a forthcoming book from former Press Secretary Scott McClellan alleges.

Entitled What Happened, the new tell-all features McClellan's account of his days as the White House's top spokesman -- including a behind-the-scenes look at the Bush administration's handling of the Plame affair, according to a tantalizing excerpt from the book released on its publisher's website.

"The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq," writes McClellan. "So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby."

But his press performances weren't based on the facts, McClellan continues.

"There was one problem. It was not true," he writes. "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the president himself."

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Former_WH_Press_Sec._Bush_Rove_1120.html

Little scotty is writing a tell all!!!

HAHAHAHA!

This little son of a b*tch is implicating both the President and Vice President and their top advisors in HIGH TREASON.

I mean, we knew, but seeing it all wrote down suddenly made me very freaking excited.

IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

Holy Shiite!!!!

Monkey, did that make your ticker flicker?

Cause my ticker started beating like a triphammer. Still is.

scotty freaking mcclellen!

OMG PEOPLE!

Yup. Definately palpitating and salivating.

The question is: Will Congress, every single one of those people--Democratic or Republican--FINALLY Impeach?!!!

Investigate, Impeach, Indict, and let them rot in a jail cell...

BTW..Monkey and Christy,

My heart didn't go pitter-patter. Instead, I feel like crying. I feel like crying for people whose children have died in this war and occupation. I feel like crying for all of us who were betrayed and continue to be betrayed.

Because that is what they are doing when they don't impeach, indict, and send them to jail. They are betraying us.

And I feel angry as hell that Congress has waited and allowed this to happen and continues to allow it to happen. I feel angry as hell that McClellan KNEW all along but obstructed justice in this. I feel angry as hell that NOW there is a 'tell all book' when the opportunity to 'tell all' was many (cursed) years ago!

So after the initial "Oh WOW" and tears, I'm just left with a seething anger at all those betrayals!

I think it will be very difficult for anyone in congress...to ignore little scotty mcclellen.

Why? Because he would know. That's why.

And, outing a CIA agent, is HIGH TREASON. They can not make this go away, they have been trying for YEARS.

If this was a hanging, I would say it was little scotty that has provided the noose.

He is just that kind of guy.

I would almost bet my own life that little scotty thinks if he can throw them into a circus, no one will remember to ask him exactly how much a certain family member of his stole from the medicaid trust fund?

There is a reason their great idea was private accounts. Because the public money is not there and eventually somebodys going to notice it. Probably right after a new president comes in an audits whats left.

There is a reason that little bastard lied so much and was so dedicated to it.

Scotty McClellen just admitted to committing HIGH TREASON and the conspiracy behind it.

Think about it, scotty not only just implicated himself,, bush and dick, he flat out named the players in THE CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT HIGH TREASON.

Oh and while I'm seething...

I'm SEETHING on behalf of Rev. Yearwood who got his leg broken by capital police when he did nothing but be an extra "peace supporter going to a hearing.

And I'm seething on behalf of Lori and Liz who got tackled because a different Code Pink lady did something the Gestapo disagreed with.

I'm seething for all the whistleblowers who continue to lose jobs, opportunities, and livelihood because they told the effing truth!

LET THE TRUTH RING and get Hilary, Edwards, and Obama to REALLY SHOW SOME COURAGE. 08 politics SUCKS. THIS is here and now.

And one wonders which people in the media will serve jail time for their crimes...

There's no way Snotty wrote this stuff without passing legal review, wise well paid counsel who no doubt would have told the lying sack of dung that he would be in deep doodoo if these allegations ever made the light of day.

Something, as usual, stinks to High Heaven, and the truth is, I expect absolulely nothing to come from it.

Book Em If They Can't Take A Joke

Call Nany Pelosis office right now!

San Francisco, CA 94102 - (415) 556-4862
Washington, DC 20515 - (202) 225-4965

Very simple, is impeachment back on the table now that scotty mcclellen has implicated both the president, vice president, and several others including himself of a CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT HIGH TREASON!???

Calllllllllll! Call now!

The dude in DC on her phones sounded like he just realized he was going to have a loooong day.

Call conyers too.

(202) 225-5126

(313) 961-5670

Christy you read my mind! That's exactly what I did. I'm calling all the Republicans too.

Frankly, I think we shoot ourselves in the foot when we focus only on Democrats doing the right thing. The Congress all of them must do the right thing.

Pelosi's obstinance is crystal clear, she'll get no call from me, nor any shred of support.

We the People, are on our own.

New Deal With It

Conyers dude was p*ssed I would even mention it!

Somebody hit him again, in DC. Just for fun.

Omg...I'm so embarrassed. I was talking to the dude at Pelosi's office and he's got his 'normal talking to someone politely but this is going to be a long day voice on...' And he listened...didn't pass me to the answering machine.

But all of a sudden I decided to tell him that I'm a former Republican. And then his voice changed. (Maybe it showed a spark of interest.) And then I started talking about right and wrong and politics and that what they've done is treason and a high crime and misdemeanor. And I mentioned that we have been betrayed and that to not impeach is more betrayal. Then I started crying.

The guy practically freaked. This time, I felt he heard me and maybe the emotion in my voice--the tears not anger-- was at least heard.

That's my point Christy, these hacks in DC ain't gonna do Jack Squat, is that not apparent to anyone yet?

I firmly believe that only MASSIVE demonstrations will move the ball an inch.

My heart was fine before 2000, no it's in pieces.

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim

Monkey, do you know what happens if we can not get the congress to uphold their oaths and do the right thing?

We are dead. Our empire is dead our nation dead, our Constitution DEAD, our kids future will be DEAD.

The only way to 'deal with' being abandoned by them, is he with the biggest guns wins. Civil war will be our future.

I am not ready to give the spoils to the victors quite yet.

Mea Culpa! I'm no quitter, but I'm medicated, have had 3 surgeries in 2 weeks, and exhausted... I am not a credible witness at this juncture!

I will say this though, I am sick and tired of being sick and tired... and like Sparrow, this country has come damn close to breaking my spirit, and for damn sure, my heart.

No need to be embarrassed Sparrow.

Honest emotion is never a shameful thing.

I would have cried too if I had not been so angry.

I know a lot of us feel pessimistic, but is we just BELIEVE in our Constitution, our faith will be rewarded.

On earth as it is in Heaven.

I know it is the equal of wishing upon a star. But we all know if we want it bad enough, wish long enough, and fight for it as hard as we can, those wishes can come true.

mcclellen has handed Us a hammer. Now nail their asses to the wall with it!

Monkey.

At least you got us, right?!!

You got that right.

You are no quitter Monkey, but you do need rest.

Go take you a good pill and get some. We will need you tip top to command us in the battles looming before us.

None of us has ever conceeded and we never will.

See how long it takes the Lamestream mdeia to pick up the story, if at all... and then watch as conservative pundits everywhere Swift Boat the living hell out of Snotty.

Bush himself could admit he did it, and nothing would happen.

Monkey,

You need music:

Sort of like a monkey pep-pill

(Oh...that's for after you rest up and get to feeling better though.)

Back atcha ...
http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/opinion/walthandelsman/blog/2007/11/animation_baby_boomers.html

But his press performances weren't based on the facts, McClellan continues.

"There was one problem. It was not true," he writes. "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the president himself."

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

TRUTH OUT!!!!

Hot potato.....

(Wow we have quite a library building up: Valerie Plame's book, Joe Wilson's book, now Scotty's book....)

Give Peace A Chance - Group Says Wearing Their Shirts on Campus Has Caused Quite a Stir
Source: FloridaToday.com
Students at Cocoa Beach Jr./Sr. High are waging a war on peace.
It all started when sophomore Skylar Stains decided to have Peace Shirt Thursdays. Skylar and her friend, Lauren Lorraine, started wearing peace shirts and soon recruited more friends to wear them. Now, the "Peace Shirt Coalition" as they call themselves, has close to 30 students from all grades. But what started out as a light-hearted gesture soon started to be taken out of context. Students started approaching the group members, yelling obscene things at them, said Lauren.
"People just turned on us like that," she said. "At least 10 boys stood up and yelled things at me at once, and we couldn't even walk through the halls without a harsh comment being made."
The heckling began early in the school year, according to group members. They say they were putting small posters promoting peace on friends' lockers with their permission. They thought it was OK, because the cheerleaders and football players had signs on theirs. Eventually, though, group members say they were told by the school's administration they could no longer hang up the posters. "People tore them down and drew swastikas and 'white power' stuff on them," Lauren said.
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071119/VERGE/711190303/1035/verge

Scotty McClellan is singing like a bird?
& he's one of W's homies from Tx.

btw

>
> Nancy Pelosi is reported to have replied to the question of impeachment of
> Dick Cheney, that if she received 10,000 hand written letters/postcards, she
> would proceed with it. What are we waiting for? Letters should go to her SF
> office.
> Nancy Pelosi
> 450 Golden Gate Avenue , 14th Floor
> San Francisco, CA 94102
>
> Phone: (415) 556-4862
>
(from A Castle, Seattle)

Huffington Post is headlining with scotty now. Big audience there.

Keep spreading it around people.

Military demanding bonus pay back from wounded vets.

“The U.S. Military is demanding that thousands of wounded service personnel give back signing bonuses because they are unable to serve out their commitments.”

http://thinkprogress.org/

Huffington post just updated their headline, moved everything down and put mclellen allll the freaking way across the top.

Huge headliner.

The more you think about it the bigger it gets.

Still not at CNN though Bush's early pardon of the turkeys is there. Me thinks he named the turkeys after himself, Cheney, Rummy, Rove, Condiliar, Gonzo, etc...

Is it at Druge yet? If we could get it there, the media would find it and use it.

Pelosi is full of crap, she won't budge on impeachment.

As for the McClellan piece, I smell a tail wagging it's dog somewhere...

Heads up, Iran.

I can hear it now, all the talking heads saying "this Plame story has been beaten to death, it's old news, it's been investigated and nothing has been found"... and then Scotty will come and make some damn clarification on what he "meant" to say, or that he was inferring something else, or it was taken out of context, or some other psychobabble bullshit.

There's been about 150 things that could have/shhould have gotten these nuts strung up by their, er, nuts, and they've walked Scott free, pardon the punk.

Damn, I pray I'm wrong, but I can't imagine what purpose his intentionally ratting everyone out can possibly serve, unless he got the biggest helping of conscience EVER.

So...which Republicans have we called to task on impeachment?

You know Monkey,

I like the optimistic version of you much better.

I know, I know....

But we don't really have a choice... except to fight like hell anyway.

I can't live in this hell. We have to get out of this. We have to believe we can.

Or else we are all here for NOTHING.

Ok, this is weird... Dumbya gave an interview that is airing tonight on ABC w/Charlie Gibson, and he use the exact same phrase that Scotty did "klieg lights", but on a different topic...

Bush, whose father was defeated for re-election by Bill Clinton in 1992, called the former first lady a "very formidable candidate," saying repeatedly that she and the former president "understand the klieg lights."

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/story?id=3892297&page=1

writes McClellan. "So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby."

Tell me which republicans are key and I'll call them too. We can list them for everyone.

My republican senator is a diaperwearing whore monger. No sense trying to preach to those who are hellbound.

Which repellicans are key or can be convinced?

on the issue of voting patterns, race and what happened in this country regionally
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/340415_krugmanonline21.html

Only 18 references but Scotty will need to publicize his book in order to sell it

mcclellan points finger at Bush, Cheney for deceit in CIA leak scandal
International Herald Tribune, France - 45 minutes ago
AP WASHINGTON: Former White House press secretary Scott mcclellan blames President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for efforts to mislead the ...

Scott mcclellan Levels Charges of Deception Against White House ...
FOX News - 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON — Former White House press secretary Scott mcclellan is lashing out at the Bush administration's handling of the CIA leak case in his new book ...

Ex-Bush Spokesman’s Tantalizing Snippet on CIA Leak
New York Times, United States - 2 hours ago
By Mike Nizza Scott mcclellan, the former White House press secretary, denied in September 2003 that Karl Rove had revealed the identity of a CIA agent. ...

Scotty's book isn't even coming til April
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003675070
Was this a purposeful leak?

I call all of them, Christy, even Walberg the neocon -club for growth-bought n paid for-subserient twit...

nmp--to a certain extent we, the people who care no matter what party, will have to force the media and politicians to follow our lead.

BTW...watching the Dixie Chix right now..reliving history. Only makes me madder.

Read what he actually is quoted as saying.

How could that possibly be 'purposeful' to them in any way...?

He is not only accusing them of lying, but addressing a conspiracy to commit HIGH TREASON at the very pinnacle of our government.

The only person this could possibly 'protect' or be used as a 'purposeful leak', is scotty mcclellen himself.

He was right in the thick of WAR CRIMES and HIGH TREASON and everyone knows it. How could his admission possibly help bush?

It looks to me, scotty is trying to get ahead of something and is willing to throw them all under the bus to get away himself.

NMP

on the issue of voting patterns, race and what happened in this country regionally http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/340415_krugmanonline21.html

Very eye-opening piece. Thanks for sharing.

Though it doesn't account for the power of conservative nonwhites (especially immigrants), a crucial bloc where I am.

BTW a long-lost cousin from NYC has just emailed me to let me know that he is relocating to Orange County (as in SoCal - right next door to me). It'll be a big cultural shock for him, especially in political terms.

Christy

I can't live in this hell. We have to get out of this. We have to believe we can.

You have a point.

And regardless of the circumstances under which I came to the US and naturalized (to help Reagan-Bush f**k it up beyond hope), I did come to the US having high hopes, and intending to share in its bounties. For me, anything less is a BREACH OF CONTRACT.

Scotty probably has some big legal bills, and the Bushies probably cut him loose.

Maybe it's payback time, in more ways than one.

Olbermann talking about Scotty. Well...will we see more action now?

Just thinking..Um...didn't Scotty testify to Fiztpatrick and the grand jury? Did he lie then? Why didn't Fitz indict the others unless Scotty lied? Can Fitz do anything at this point?

THIS IS BUSHITT ( I think I am going to call this school tomorrow and speak to the principal)

@@@@@@@@@@@@

Lori Masterson, assistant principal at Cocoa Beach Jr./Sr. High, says by law, the administration cannot discuss specific discipline dispositions for students, but that the school works with teachers and coaches to make sure all students on campus are safe and treated fairly.

She said all students have the opportunity to form clubs and organizations on campus, but those wishing to do so must identify a sponsor and bring their written proposal to the principal outlining what the proposed group's purpose and goals are.

"As of this writing, to my knowledge, no one has submitted a written proposal with an identified sponsor for a peace club to Mr. Cool," Masterson said in an e-mailed statement.

But peace group members say they have submitted a written proposal and had a written sponsor, but they were recently turned down.

Let us know what happens Ralph.

On the Scotty story--now the AP has it.

(Call them speedy...)

16 Min. Ago

WASHINGTON - Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan blames President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for efforts to mislead the public about the role of White House aides in leaking the identity of a CIA operative.

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In an excerpt from his forthcoming book, McClellan recounts the 2003 news conference in which he told reporters that aides Karl Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby were "not involved" in the leak involving operative Valerie Plame.

"There was one problem. It was not true," McClellan writes, according to a brief excerpt released Tuesday. "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest-ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice president, the president's chief of staff and the president himself."

Bush's chief of staff at the time was Andrew Card.

The excerpt, posted on the Web site of publisher PublicAffairs, renews questions about what went on in the West Wing and how much Bush and Cheney knew about the leak. For years, it was McClellan's job to field — and often duck — those types of questions.

Ok Christy, ya feisty cajun beauty, ya knocked me back into optimisticland... ya happy now?

Let's kick some ass!

3 pages of Google news entries now on Scottie, compared with 1 earlier

Everything from "Whitehouse Mouthpiece Snitches on Lying Bosses" to "Plame Spin Contested" (the latter being NewsMax, who is probably horrified

Looks like he's protecting his own butt & I doubt he can be tried again for the same crime - wouldn't that be double jeopardy? but if he'd lied under oath?

interesting

Notice Chief of Staff when Scottie was in the White House was Andrew Card. Maybe that's part of why he bailed and turned on them not so very long ago.

Chris Dodd: Investigate the President
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/20/194652/06

Fox/WH spin will be that it's partisan politics to say that

If you were following the Kerry v Pickens story (Swiftboating challenge), I have updated it so both letters are there back-to-back (from Friday and today) http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/silenced_majority_portal/2007/11/pickens-v-kerry.html

Damn right Monkey!

We are here to kick some ass and chew some bubble gum.

And we are currently all out of bubble gum.

My heart didn't go pitter-patter. Instead, I feel like crying. I feel like crying for people whose children have died in this war and occupation. I feel like crying for all of us who were betrayed and continue to be betrayed. (sparrow)

Me too sparrow. I understand the joy, but this administration has been revealed over and over and over and over again. And still your elected representatives ignore it. They won't take any notice of this writer. "Sour grapes," the guilty will call it.

Images flash in my head. One is an Iraqi woman crying that her country had not experienced over 31 years of Saddam's rule, the level of terror and violence that the American occupation has inflicted every single day since the invasion. I see pictures of limbless or brain injured vets. I see the bloodied children's broken bodies carried by grieving family. And I want to scream at those who continue to promote this bloody occupation.

Military demanding bonus pay back from wounded vets.

“The U.S. Military is demanding that thousands of wounded service personnel give back signing bonuses because they are unable to serve out their commitments.” (from Christy)

OMG. Surely now republicans will start to change sides for voting! That is truly more disgusting than I'd expect from the worst dictator/murderer who ever walked the planet. Tell me, what is the difference between Islamic extremists engaging suicide bombers or the American president George W Bush's sending young combatants equipped with unsafe body armour to probable death or disability? And then - worse - and then - insist that those disabled combatants to return their well-earned bonuses? What is the difference?

George W Bush is worse than Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden. He makes the seriously injured pay him for the privilege of being disabled. This is really sick.

Bribery scandal hits Army
Contractor charged with buying off Army before netting $20m in business.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Contractor_charged_in_Army_bribery__11202007.html

This is an open thread so I thought I'd share a little news item that I read in today's local newspaper. The city of Launceston, Tasmania has a population of 98,160 people. I live in the inner suburb of Newstead. We have about about 12 shops plus a small supermarket, a pub and a medical clinic of about 10 doctors.

Here are bits from the article.

Newstead student sets her sights on the US for study
Melanie Earls journalism intern

"Vanessa Vanderpols, 18, of Newstead College, has received the American Association of University Women scholarship. Vanessa is the first recipient of the AAUW scholarship."

"The exchange is a result of a Newstead College performing arts tour to Napa last year which formed part of Launceston's bicentennial celebrations.

"In 2006, 40 Newstead College students travelled to Napa to perform, Launceston: It's About Us - a performance piece that illustrated Launceston's 200 year history through song, dance, poetry and acting.

"As a result of the trip a sister-city relationship was formed and AAUW agreed to sponsor a Newstead College student each year for a six month study exchange."

"There are 10,000 students at Napa Valley College which will be a big change coming from a school of 400. Launceston will host a student from Napa Valley College [starting] next March."

IMMUNITY

Scotty McClellan has been given immunity perhaps. It would have to be pretty certain though. And from on high. So, who is higher than the president in the pecking order of the legalities. OR his publisher knows that this whistling will sell millions of copies - all over the world. Translated into every imagineable language on the planet. In that instance they can get him the best lawyer imagineable plus pay him an enormous advance.

People everywhere are hating America and Americans right now. One thing that would turn that around would be for GDubya to be impeached and incarcerated for the "term of his natural life". This is the only thing that would really change hearts.

Oh...poor Woz. YOu come on and post just as all of us but Rossi have crashed for the night.

Immunity may have come from Fitz not from Bush. But that's why I'm wondering if he told all to Fitz or if there will be new info to open the case.

If not...well they'll use that as an excuse.

White House press secretary Dana Perino said it wasn't clear what McClellan meant in the excerpt and she had no immediate comment.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21903753/

Gee, what's not clear about this:

"There was one problem. It was not true," McClellan writes, according to a brief excerpt released Monday. "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest-ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice president, the president's chief of staff and the president himself."

Burning Down The House

We are trying Woz.

God knows we are trying to stop it.

The rest of the world is not here among us. What I am most afraid of is they will never see these internal struggles from within the US.

They, the rest of the world, will never know how hard we did try to stop it.

Hey Monkey,

Is it possible Dana Perino is in fact retarded?

I mean, she sounds retarded, and when she lies like that she looks retarded. So I am thinking the poor woman may actually be retarded.

Then again, calling her retarded is propably an insult to the retarded.

more legs on Scottie McClellan story - it's on the Comcast mainpage

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Let us know what happens Ralph.

On the Scotty story--now the AP has it.

(Call them speedy...)

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I just called the Cocoa Beach Jr/Sr High

321-783-1776

The Asst. Principal quoted in the article was "not in". Apparently there was a "ball game" last night, which takes top priority, and she is not there this morning. The woman I spoke with denied the allegations about confederate flags and swazticas going up around the school.

I also called Senator Mel Martinez's (R-FL) office about what was going on Florida. They hung up when I didn't produce a Florida zip code for my residence.

HILLARY COMPLETELY IGNORES ANTI-WAR PROTESTER; HAS HIM THROWN ABOUT BY SECURITY; MERRILY GOES ON WITH HER LAME, CANNED SPEECH...

Ralph,

Pick any city in that district then google it. Then call back and answer the zip code response.

I think I will call the school too.

Ralph,

They're all gone today (day before Turkey Day.)

Call back on Monday. I got the names of the Dean, the principal and the superintendent. I told them I was getting information for an online organization.

Questions I got answered:

1. One police officer (resource officer) for the whole school He/she has an office--possibly doesn't roam the halls.

2. Approximately 1500 students give or take...

3. Doesn't know if the anti-peace group received suspensions too.

If you're interested in calling on Monday, then let me know and I'll forward the names to you.

My focus was not on the anti-peace message when I spoke to them. Instead, I focused my questions on school bullying and the supression/bullying of alternative students and their ideas. Hense, you can see why I asked about if the others were suspended.

GQ Men of the Year 2007

Dark Horse of the Year: Ron Paul

We've chosen presidential candidate Ron Paul as our Dark Horse of the Year—in GQ's December Men of the Year issue, on stands nationwide on November 27th. Here's why.

http://men.style.com/gq/blogs/gqeditors/2007/11/gqs-dark-horse.html