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Palin Abused Power...report says

Per BRANCHFLOWER:

"I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power..."

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And to give Sarah Palin a bigger migraine, today, the judge ordered her to preserve all her government emails even if sent via her private email account. Now, she is forced to gather all of those and submit them for review.

This isn't a good day to be a Sarah Palin fan but it is a good day if you're an open-honest government fan.

This news is still breaking. So keep you're ears and eyes open for more details.

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sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Troopergate report: Palin abused power

Senate President Lyda Green looks over the ethics report.

A investigation has concluded that Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power in pushing for the firing of an Alaska state trooper, according to a report just unanimously released by the Legislative Council. 4:39 PM

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

The report by investigator Steve Branchflower found that Palin violated the state's executive branch ethics act, which says that "each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Palin and McCain are trying to blow it off and say it was 'political'. Yeh right. And that's why 12-0, it was released to the public. And that's why Alaskan Republicans (in office) have come out against Palin.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

I agree with this comment at kos:

The committee did not appear to have many qualms about releasing it. The symbolism of the committee voting unanimously will not be lost on the public, either in Alaska or in the rest of the US.

Abuse of one's official position and power is something that rightly should make all Americans wince at this point in our history. What impact it will have on Palin's tenure as Governor of Alaska is unclear, but by rights it ought to have a significant impact on the Presidential election.

We have seen the havoc that a rogue Vice President is capable of causing. We don't need four more years of Dick Cheney. Sarah Cheney. Whatever. Never again.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Finding Number Four:

The Attorney General’s office has failed to substantially comply with my August 6, 2008 written request to Governor Sarah Palin for information about the case in the form of emails.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Here's another of the report's key conclusions:

"Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: To get Trooper Michael Wooten fired.''

woz said:

What a relief this is. But, the media really loves slime more than good, solid hard campaigning with solutions and facts. So this will fill pages and more bigots will come out of the woodwork or the slime-pit to support her as their choice.

While at the same time, I believe more and more decent republicans - and I believe there are plenty of decent law-abiding republicans - will really turn aside from McCain and his very poor judgement here.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

So she continues to rail against some remote figure in Obama's past when she herself has a CURRENT ethics violation in her CURRENT job! The only reason she won't get impeached is because of the timing - hopefully people will realize she should be no where near a high public office. Too bad this came out on a Friday but it should be fodder for all the Sunday political junkie chat shows.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

The Paulites are harassing the Palinites on McCain's blog:

Posted at 11:43PM on 10/10/08 by RonPaul4Prez
Uh, ReformRevolution, you do know that the Alaskan state legislature that found Palin guilty of abusing state powers IS majority Republican and that the Alaskan president of the senate and speaker of the house are both Republicans. These are the people who found Palin guilty. Don't blame the Democrats.

Seriously, do a tiny bit of research before making bogus claims to support your prejudices. Don't vote unless you are actually informed. Our country deserves an educated electorate.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Typical McCain blog post that is not from an Obama or Ron Paul troll:

Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance...all socialist nonsense that John McCain will bravely fight against until no remaining vestige of collective nonsense exists.

America is the greatest country on Earth because it is every man for himself and the strongest survive. If I teach my neighbor to fish, that's just less fish for me to catch, so I'll bait his hook with a stick!

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

I also went to Free Republic.

Now I will shower.

aimzzz said:

They are saying the report on how she upholds the office of Governor should be delayed till after the election so it won't distract from the McCain/Palin assault on Obama's character?

"Palin and McCain's supporters had hoped the inquiry's finding would be delayed until after the presidential election to spare her any embarrassment and to put aside an enduring distraction as she campaigns as McCain's running mate in an uphill contest against Democrat Barack Obama."

Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/lawmakers-emerge-from-ses_n_133800.html

aimzzz said:

"The report said Palin had been asked to cooperate with the investigation by giving a sworn statement, and that she hadn't done so."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7LmarhhJnoE&refer=home

aimzzz said:

"Republican John McCain's campaign is rejecting as partisan politics an investigator's finding that his running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, abused her power by letting her husband use her office to try to get a state trooper fired."

I presume the McCain/Palin assault on the character of Barack Obama isn't partisan politics

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7LmarhhJnoE&refer=home

aimzzz said:

Report vindicates governor, Palin spokesman says
http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/552515.html

woz said:

I'm going to ignore everything until it's over. I'm glad that I have that luxury. It makes me physically sick to see what they are actually doing and getting away with. But just like the Republicans in Alaska have found her guilty, those feelings will seep on down through the rest of the party. Surely most Republicans don't like what they're saying and doing now. Well ........ I know .......... 2000 .......... 2004

Matthew Carnicelli Author Profile Page said:

Another blow for the "family values crowd", and especially for my friends in Vatican.

St. John's University priest accused of sending homemade smut to 'teen'

BY ERICA PEARSON, KERRY BURKE AND ALISON GENDAR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Saturday, October 11th 2008, 1:15 AM
St. John's University Chaplain Charles Plock is released on bail from Queens court Friday after being arrested for sending homemade porn to teen boy in Colorado, who was actually a cop. Taggart for News

St. John's University Chaplain Charles Plock is released on bail from Queens court Friday after being arrested for sending homemade porn to teen boy in Colorado, who was actually a cop.

A St. John's University chaplain was charged Friday with transmitting an obscene Webcam image of himself to someone he thought was a 13-year-old boy, police sources said.

The Rev. Charles Plock, 63, picked the wrong "teen" to e-mail his homemade masturbation movies, authorities said. The recipient was actually Detective Mark Michieli of the Adams County, Colo., sheriff's office, who pretended he was a youth in an online sting operation.

Cops traced Plock's e-mail to St. John's, the Catholic university in Queens, where he is a chaplain and youth minister.

- more -

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/10/10/2008-10-10_st_johns_university_priest_accused_of_se-3.html

Matthew Carnicelli Author Profile Page said:

And this one is the for the nitwik cultural voters.

October 11, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist
The Mask Slips
By BOB HERBERT

The lesson for Americans suffused with anxiety and dread over the crackup of the financial markets is that the way you vote matters, that there are real-world consequences when you go into a voting booth and cast that ballot.

For the nitwits who vote for the man or woman they’d most like to have over for dinner, or hang out at a barbecue with, I suggest you take a look at how well your 401(k) is doing, or how easy it will be to meet the mortgage this month, or whether the college fund you’ve been trying to build for your kids is as robust as you’d like it to be.

Voters in the George W. Bush era gave the Republican Party nearly complete control of the federal government. Now the financial markets are in turmoil, top government and corporate leaders are on the verge of panic and scholars are dusting off treatises that analyzed the causes of the Great Depression.

- more -

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/opinion/11herbert.html

Christy said:

Woz, don't ignore it now, the whole point is they ARE NOT getting away with it anymore. A major tide has shifted and they are being exposed now for what they are.

It is too late. I mean, our nation is failing. But atleast it is on record now who it is that is corrupt, it is on every tv who is inciting angry mobs. If you look away now, you'll miss how this story ends.

Know what I think will happen on Nov 4th? I think republicans will try some reverse psychology. They will invent 'evidence' of massive voter fraud to explain why Obama won. They can not rig a landslide, so they will have to make us believe HE stole it.

And then they will deliberately press their robots to riot. And they will too, because unlike dems, republicans are more than willing to kill our own for political or criminal purposes. They will send them out to riot as a prelude to war. They need more war now, anything less and they lose power. to THAT ONE. To a black man. To a democrat. They CAN NOT let that happen.

There will not be peace, they can not allow peace. They will not hand over all the power they risked everything to obtain. They betrayed our own nation to obtain it. They need war to cover the crimes they have ALREADY committed. There is no profit in peace anyway.

I think we are all walking into a trap. And we have no choice but to do so.

Don't look away now Woz, we will need all our friends to bear witness to what is about to happen here.

Christy said:

From Americablog

Let's just say, we all know this economic crisis is a disaster. But, when the first thing I see on my t.v. on a Saturday morning is George Bush addressing the nation one more time, well, that can only be trouble. He's trying to reassure us again. Again.

He provided this warning, too, which sounded a little ominous:

"As our nations carry out this plan, we must insure the actions of one country do not contradict or undermine the actions of another. In our interconnected world, no nation will gain by driving down the fortunes of another. We're in this together."

Who is he talking about? China?

.......

I would bet both of my feet full of toes that yes, China is EXACTLY whom he is aiming that at.

They will not wait for us to regain our strength. Why would they?

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

"As our nations carry out this plan, we must insure the actions of one country do not contradict or undermine the actions of another. In our interconnected world, no nation will gain by driving down the fortunes of another. We're in this together."

Who is he talking about? China?

.......

I would bet both of my feet full of toes that yes, China is EXACTLY whom he is aiming that at.

They will not wait for us to regain our strength. Why would they?

~~~~

Huh?

Christy said:

China is about to crash our economy. For good.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Yeh, but is Bush warning them or enabling them with a wink, etc...or is he trying to threaten them?

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Well good for McCain there but he shouldn't have pandered so much to the Dark Side in the first place. He shouldn't have kowtowed to his neocon advisors. He would weaken under pressure if he were in the White House too. It would be a Bush term III. He should not have gotten in over his head. He should never have added Palin to the ticket, even to pick up the far right wackos. I hope Independents see the light and don't fall for it. McCain has now got himself in the middle and I hope that it splits the Republican party across the seams. It's about time.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Christy
Sure sounds like it (China) - wouldn't be surprised if he was pressured by other nations about the bailout in the first place. With globalization, we are beholden to alot of others and the "go it alone" military approach was not realistically something that could be implemented when our fortunes are intertwined. In 1986, this planet started to produce more than it consumes. Also, as of now, we have run out of space on the national debt clock. There are not enough digits on the ticker for it to continue to show how in debt we are. That is pretty symbolic in itself!

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Christy
I don't think the rightwing robots will riot because, even armed, they do not ever REALLY question authority. They will bitch alot but the cycle is moving in the other direction - the pendulum has swung. It has momentum.

Imagine if YouTube had existed in Nixon's time! Imagine if we could have blogged about Reagan. I would have loved to have!

aimzzz said:

slugbug
If mobs were forming at Obama rallies, McCainville would be screaming radical agitation

aimzzz said:

So well said:
"Sen. McCain and his operatives are gambling that they can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance," Obama said. "They'd rather try to tear our campaign down than lift this country up. That's what you do when you're out of touch, out of ideas and running out of time."

Barack Obama accuses Republicans of distracting voters from the economy
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-campaign6-2008oct06,0,4883221.story

aimzzz said:

Anybody know the format for the next debate?

aimzzz said:

Ah, found it

Third Presidential Debate - Domestic and Economic Policy - Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY - October 15, 2008


format same as 1st debate.

I like the subject focus...

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

yes good timing

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

I don't know, aimzzz.

Good truthful message here: Watch the video. (I tried to embed the link but it didn't work.)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/11/10531/682/57/627442

Christy said:

'I don't think the rightwing robots will riot because, even armed, they do not ever REALLY question authority.'

You don't think they will riot if Obama is acused of stealing an election? If they actually believe Obama 'stole it' they will form lynch mobs before any of us can even celebrate an honest victory.

That is the point though, they will not be obeying authority they will riot to cause chaos.

Remember in Florida in 2000? When all the little busheviks were outright mobbing up and trying to force their way into the counting room...?

Sitting back and NOT rioting when an election is stolen is how DEMS act... not republicans.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

McCain shies away from recent days' attacks (But before McCain's speech his representatives on stage didn't get the message to tone down the hate talk.)

From the A.P.:


Unhelpful for establishing the tone McCain sought in Davenport was the Rev. Arnold Conrad, past pastor of the Grace Evangelical Free Church. His prayer before McCain arrived at the convention center blocks from the Mississippi River appeared to dismiss faiths other than Christianity and cast the election as a referendum on God himself.


"I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god — whether it's Hindu, Buddha, Allah — that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons," Conrad said.


"And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day," he said.

~~~

And that in a nutshell is just what those people think. Their brand of Christianity or their brand of religion is the only and yet they don't hesitate to use ALL OUR TAX DOLLARS to support THEIR PERSONAL Godly agenda.

What she didn't tell worshippers gathered at the Wasilla Assembly of God church in her hometown was that her appearance that day came courtesy of Alaskan taxpayers, who picked up the $639.50 tab for her airplane tickets and per diem fees.
An Associated Press review of the Republican vice presidential candidate's record as mayor and governor reveals her use of elected office to promote religious causes, sometimes at taxpayer expense and in ways that blur the line between church and state.
Since she took state office in late 2006, the governor and her family have spent more than $13,000 in taxpayer funds to attend at least 10 religious events and meetings with Christian pastors, including Franklin Graham, the son of evangelical preacher Billy Graham, records show.

~~~

McCain/Palin. The first Presidential and VP candidate to BOTH have had formal ethics violations against them. And I imagine the words WWJD doesn't mean anything to them, either. A match made in Heaven. Or doomed to ....

Take note...I am leaving aside all bitter-mean spirited comments about hypocrites and Pharisees and the betrayal to mankind.


Christy said:

When Gore won/lost he conceeded, because he did not want our nation to dissolve into civil war.

When Kerry won/lost, he also conceeded, so as not to send our nation into civil war.

Do any of us believe that mumbles mccrazy would have any qualms about letting us fall into civil war just to dispute an election he lost fair and square?

The angry mobs they have stoked into their base, do any of us believe they will just go away and let a blackmuslimarabterrorist take power peacefully? Especially if they believe "he stole it"....?

They are warmongers. Many of these crazies have waited a long time to excuse bringing martial law down on our own countrymen. They have been just waiting for an excuse, some of them for their whole lives. And Foe news is busy setting up that excuse right now with the narrative that ACORN and all those horrible black people/democrats are trying to crash the election the same way they crashed Wall Street.

I think we often underestimate the cowardice of republican war mongers. They will not go toe to toe and fill their hands for a face to face, may the best man win throw down.

But if they think they can run up into your house with their mobs and make war on your women and children just to teach us all a lesson... they will do it.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

RACIST McCain-Palin supporter passes off a 'Obama monkey' to a kid he doesn't know.

A proud mom or dad ready to breed another generation of racial intolerance into that cute kid.

Way to go.

WWJD?

Someone tell me...

Does Jesus hate blacks? Because McCain-Palin and their supporters who claim to be Christians surely do.

I guess they missed that portion of the Bible that said, "God loves all of us; we're all God's children."

And they most certainly missed the portion, "Love thy neighbor."

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

When I worked for the minimum wage campaign, there was a Republican dude who didn't hesitate to threaten me with violence.

I actually was ticked at our supervisors who sent us out alone to work our area. It was a dark neighborhood. I did what I could during daylight. But after that--and when dusk came--I hid in my car (which I fortunately had with me that day because most of the time they dropped us off without a car!).

Then they complained because I didn't 'make enough in donations' that night. (That last week it was dark and from 7-9pm nobody would open the door anyways!) So...with 3 days left in their campaign, I got let go. Thank God!

I did not like how they put us at risk.

Christy said:

That dude is a total piece of sh*t coward. Someone should shove that monkey doll down his throat.

Oh man! I can not take much more of these stupid people.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

He's a happy-go-lucky-racist.

racistman.JPG

Now he's on video so he sneaks it to the kid. Why isn't the grandma telling him to get lost? I would!


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Ah...This guy would be right at home beneath a KKK sheet.


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The question du jour...how many of those people near him believe that the monkey stands for a black man and is racist? And how many are disgusted by his behavior? How many care?

And let's make sure we teach our future black-hating racist to say thank you to the guy who just gave him a racist gift.

Who would Jesus hate again?

woz said:

Yikes! Sparrow! That top photo - the guy with the monkey - and the leer? That's a pedophile! That's the face, the leer and the stance and the action of a pedophile!

Whoever is guardian of that child, they'd better watch him. Close.

woz said:

OMG - that man looks like he is the cat about to eat that canary. Look at the pleasure he has in the bottom photo eyeballing that little boy who isn't even looking at him.

They sure have some sickos at their rallies.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

He does look like a pedophile.

Here is the video .. maybe .. I'm trying

Meanwhile, an Obama rally in Philly

Philadelphiaprogressplaza4

http://www.silencedmajority.blogs.com

Tomorrow I'll be photographing a Kids for Obama rally - with SANE people.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Try it at my link above - it may or may not work - it works on my computer but maybe only on my computer - I don't know. My husband agreed that guy looks like pedophile.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

My son agrees too.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

I don't know if he's a pedophile but I thought he looked retarded or like an exconvict.

woz said:

If he were intellectually delayed, he'd be unlikely to give away a comfort toy. He wouldn't get the KKK-type mentality of the connection being made. Exconvict I can't see. Just pure pleasure. It's such an ugly thing he's done that I will project my ugly thoughts about him, without any qualms about whether they be true or not.

Christy said:

I think the simple fact he is on tape violating the trust of a random little kid is enough to give you the feeling he has 'pedophile' tendancies, even if it is not true.

But, that was not a pedophile act. It was simply a racist caught on film and using a child as a human shield.

Freaking coward.

Christy said:

Calling a man a coward and a racist is one thing, calling him a pedophile is quite another.

Even I would not mind seeing a pedophile torn to pieces by an angry mob, even though I know it is hardly christian like.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Well they play with kids toys and use them to lure kids & we have seen several around here who were later apprehended and he does fit the stereotype - I don't even know the dude, but he's creepy regardless. Would definitely not hire him as a sitter.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

better audio on this one.

aimzzz said:

Wow... looks like McCain has made himself ill:

With his electoral prospects fading by the day, Senator John McCain has fallen out with his vice-presidential running mate about the direction of his White House campaign.

McCain has become alarmed about the fury unleashed by Sarah Palin, the moose-hunting “pitbull in lipstick”, against Senator Barack Obama. Cries of “terrorist” and “kill him” have accompanied the tirades by the governor of Alaska against the Democratic nominee at Republican rallies.

Mark Salter, McCain’s long-serving chief of staff, is understood to have told campaign insiders that he would prefer his boss, a former Vietnam prisoner of war, to suffer an “honourable defeat” rather than conduct a campaign that would be out of character – and likely to lose him the election....

McCain tussles with Palin over whipping up a mob mentality
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4926283.ece

woz said:

There's something wrong with my hearing. I can't tell the difference between booing and cheering, if that was booing.

aimzzz said:

To me Palin seemed ditsy & flakey till after the VP debate. Now she's looking like Carl Rove in a skirt... more dangerous than Bush

I can almost see the mantle of hateful negativity floating gently onto her shoulders. The disillusion of Bush supporters had lulled me into thinking that wingnut extremism had gentled a little. Maybe it never did... or maybe the economy is giving it new fangs...

There's alot about her running for prez in 2012. They're grooming her already, based the quantity of venom she's been spewing.

What can I say? My visceral disgust reaction seems to be transferring from Bush to Palin

Christy said:

The best damn ads AND the funniest yet! Very effective!

HILLARIOUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoIrq74osLc

woz said:

It is really hard to remind myself those ads are not McC and Obama! Well done! Brilliant!

kangaroo Author Profile Page said:

Can we start emailing this around to faux news, and passing on to friends.

In Letter to 'NYT,' Man Who Prosecuted Weather Underground Hits Linking Ayers to Obama

By Greg Mitchell

Published: October 10, 2008 9:00 AM ET

NEW YORK In a surprising a letter to the editor published in The New York Times today, the chief prosecutor of the Weather Underground in the 1970s expressed outrage over the linking of Barack Obama to Bill Ayers by the McCain campaign, adding, "Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen."

William C. Ibershof also corrects a charge in the Times: "I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of 'prosecutorial misconduct.' It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director."

Felt, of course (you may have already forgotten), was also known as a guy called "Deep Throat."

The full letter follows. For constant coverage of the media and the campaign go to our new blog at:
The E&P Pub

*
As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.

Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.

William C. Ibershof
Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003873017

kangaroo Author Profile Page said:

Infowars.com 'Olbermann slams McCain's connections to bonafied eugenicists, racists and fascists'

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Kangaroo,

The problem with Olbermann's sound reasoning is that to the other side, murder, mayhem, and terror against LIVING people is a-ok with them because they have decided that THEY are the only worthy ones. THEY are the only ones right. THEY can determine that it's ok with them and their God to go send bombs to clinics or to shoot doctors. They pretend that THEIR GOD would approve of them TAKING ANOTHER LIFE and they expand that theory to their pro-war behavior. ANd they expand that theory to hunting for fun and not for food. They THINK that their God approves of ONLY THEIR VIEWS AND THEY SEE APPROVAL by their God for what they do.

And those anti-choice, anti-life, anti-abortionist, pro-hunter, warmongers pretend that their God doesn't want to take care of the living after birth. They cringe at the idea of social democracy that provides its citizens with ...A DOCTOR and HEALTH CARE. They hate the idea that a life should be taken care of by providing good paying jobs and unions to protect workers from bosses who would starve them and abuse them.

There are people who would not give a crap that doctors have been gunned down and people have died in those clinics. They don't care because they're so narrow minded in their view that they don't care if a HUMAN LIFE is taken away as long as a fetus is not aborted. After all, they create Hell on Earth so why should a fetus escape the Hell on Earth that they give to us? We should all suffer. That's what they think.

So the next time a anti-choice activist insists that it's murder or about life, then maybe they should put their money where their mouth is. They should feed that life for the next 80 years. They should provide heath care insurance for the next 80 years. They should make sure that person isn't homeless and eating out of garbage cans for the next 80 years. They should make sure that the person can sustain life in a healthy and nurturing way.

The fact is that the Wright thing wasn't about Obama getting up and leaving. It was about racism and 'black power' over whites. When they talk about Ayers, well, they aren't even making sense since Obama was 8 years old. But when the anti-choices, anti-democrats, actually have the gumption to TALK about killing Democrats and they TALK about killing a candidate, then it shows you that they are NOT PRO-LIFE.

The Bible says not to judge others; they do. The Bible says to not kill; they do. The Bible says to love they neighbor as thyself; they don't.

Yes, as someone told me, they are hypocrites. BUT they are DEADLY HYPOCRITES. And that makes a world of difference. The fetus is ALL that matters to them and NOTHING ELSE.

Christy said:

If I have to confront one more idiot in my family who suddenly goes coo-coo for coa-coa puffs and launch into a tirade about that 'damn arab/muslim Obama' I am going to freak out and start telling them how STUPID I think they are. These crazy people are driving me insane!

How can we have this conversation when one side is completely in denial about the most trivial and important pieces of REALITY ITSELF...?

ARRRGGHHH! I CAN'T TAKE THE STUPID ANYMORE! IT BURNS! IT BURNS!

I never even have time to actually talk about Obama or his record, large pieces of which I disagree with (healthcare, Iran, Georgia) But who has time to actually talk about that when EVERY conversation is turning into...

"OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM/ARAB! THAT IS A LIE! STOP FREAKING LYING YOU DAMNED FOOLISH LIAR! ARE YOU STUPID ON PURPOSE OR JUST PRETENDING TO BE STUPID?"

This is getting so stupid, I have to shave off 100 IQ points just to address them on their level.

If I drank, I would be totally drunk right now.


slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Nyc sent me a video with better BOOS - I'm updating our site

Christy
Zogby poll says the negativity is not working for the pukes. Obama leads Independents by double digits now. It's the economy stupid (and that is tied to the war, among other things.)

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Christy and Slugbug and Aimzzz,

I am not sure if anyone noticed the link that Aimzzz posted above regarding the split in the Mccain/Palin camp and the fact that Palin thinks she's going to run in 2012 because she'll be seen as a fighter, not a wuss.

I have to admit that I wonder at the people who support her and that kind of racism and why they think it will play in 2012. They think she's pretty and she's tough. But I hope her hate speech backfires and that people will see that she offers nothing but a prettyier version of Bush-Cheney-Rove than the original Bush-Cheney-Rove.

Thus far, it seems to have given her a firmer hold amongst the extreme-religious people, but those people don't seem to care about her lies and corruption. They even don't care that she set up her seven year old daughter to be her shield-her protector--at the hockey game last night.

What a mom!

Yes, use your kid as a shield so that you can go and tell people to kill other people like you do at your traveling bamboozala shows, Palin. And somehow that makes you a better candidate for 2012?

Oh. But those guys out there will call liberals 'sexist pigs' because we think that using your kid as a shield is wrong. And then they'll point to Chelsea Clinton, the Edward's kids, and the interview with Obama's kids as if there's some sort of 'equivalent behavior.'

Yes. I bet ya that her kid will have nightmares about going to a large place with all sorts of people shouting at her. Oh. wait. It's reality...not a nightmare.

Well, anyways, since I never believed Bush 2 would ever be taken seriously, I will never put Palin out of the running. What seems obviously corrupt and stupid has been proven to not mean anything when people chose to ignore it as they did in Bush 1 and 2's case. So why not Bush 3 in a skirt?

I only hope that people don't fall for her hate rhetoric, and that people don't let her get away with crimes just because she's pretty and wears her religion on her sleeve. We don't need a Bush 3.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

I her tell that a thirty minute Obama ad is running in some markets this morning.

I'm going to take photos at the Children for Obama parade and it was supposed to be a wet and overcast day but there is glorious sun!

Obama is up in the polls of Zogby, who reports double digit leads among independents, 12 points for women, double digits for young and newly registered, neck and neck with white males.

Hell freezes over - son of William F. Buckley has endorsed Obama - his father would turn over in his grave. Well, maybe not.
http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/silenced_majority_portal/2008/10/wm-f-buckleys-s.html

Someone like Palin is insulting to the old tradition where there were some intelligent conservatives (like David Brooks) who were mostly fiscally conservative and on the hawkish side but nothing like the far right who has taken over now.

I also looked at the electoral maps from 1968 til now and the only ones more encouraging were the Clinton ones where people didn't have to contend as much with racism. The Reagan electoral maps were almost completely red, and then the McGovern and Dukakis maps are demoralizing to look at. Finally, the Gore and Kerry maps get better and then Obama, if he takes Dem and leaners, already wins but leans have to really go blue. If he takes some of the "tossup" states he is in strongly, even with cheating.

His campaign smear section takes on the "Acorn" business FOX has been touting. Pukes are getting scared so they are alleging voting fraud, very nervy after having stolen two elections. Voter disenfranchisement is their modus operandi. That is nothing new.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Sparrow
I agree with your analysis above as far as the (lack of) logic of how some think! There is no consistency in their positions.

I would hope that if Palin runs in 2012 it would be with the Secessionist Party or Constitution Party. She would be a great third party candidate! Bring it on! She would never attract the old school Republicans but would draw off the rabid social conservatives.

I also don't find her unusually attractive. "Hot" I don't get that.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

She is pretty. (Hot) But so is Hillary. And so too is Landreau from LA. And so too is Granholm from MI--though Granholm can not run as a Presidential candidate.

The thing is that Hillary is not even as corrupt as this pretty-and hypocritically "Chritian" Palin. Palin likes to say she speaks her mind. Yes, she does. But she also does underhanded things. And she also broke the ETHICS LAWS in Alaska before she even finished out one term! She took Wasilla who had no debt and used their tax payer money to get a recreation center and then used the people who she gave the bid on the rec. center to build her own house. One wonders at the details of that little bit of cronyism and if they paid more for the rec center so that she could pay less for her 500k house.

Hillary had Walmart and basically the nothing things they tried in the 90's to use against her and they were unsuccessful back then-despite owning the media and attacking the Clinton's for years.

Now Landreau is pretty. But she's definitely a more 'moderate red-state' dem. But even Landreau would find herself smeared by the Republicans. Imagine them saying, "Landreau...the most liberal voting record..." Sure, it's a lie, but they do that to whoever the Democratic candidate is.

The point is that there are many HONEST women and HONEST Christians who don't have to spew hate and participate in law breaking who could run in 2012. Palin shouldn't be considered 'the best' because she bites. So what. I'd rather have honesty and integrity like Kerry and Obama than have a lawbreaking, hypocritical "Christian" racist bitter like
Palin. And I think many Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists worldwide would agree.


Christy said:

Pretty is a dime a dozen. Pretty is a prostitute.

Most of the time, the prettiest women are the coldest and most vicious. Insecurity is never attractive.

Princess Wasilla makes me barf. There is no such thing as a beautiful disaster.

I pointed out to Sparrow the other day, this is the reason why crazies used to be driven out of villages to live in some dark cave together so they could not spread madness through the town and incite lynch mobs in the name of a fearful god. Out there in the woods they can only drive each other more insane and let the rest of us evolve without the drama.

See what happens when we let crazy people take control of the conversation?

aimzzz said:

I'm sure y'all have seen the Daily Show on FOX, but here's the link anyway... it exactly describes the state of the FOX/McCain/Palin situation

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=187600&title=fox-news-panics

aimzzz said:

The fruit of negative campaigning:

What if Obama really is a radical left-wing extremist Muslim terrorist pawn of an international conspiracy to overthrow the government?

For those who aren't already convinced, the question is becoming obscured by the campaign making itself look rabid...

aimzzz said:

"Those gents and the House Republicans who almost drove the economy off the cliff last month got into politics because of their hatred of regulation and taxation, the twin bogeymen of the GOP for three decades. But guess what? In the span of three weeks, those words have taken on a positive connotation (at least as applied to Wall Street). When the tectonic plates of American politics shifted, only one candidate was ready."

Crushed by the Elephant
Jonathan Alter
http://www.newsweek.com/id/163457/page/1

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

I'm watching Bill and Hillary Clinton and Joe and Jill Biden in Scranton on Obama's site and I am glad to be a Democrat.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Hillary:
It's not who you are for but we is for you.

Joe Biden:
These attacks don't hurt Barack and I.
They hurt the American people.

You can't be a maverick when you've
just been a sidekick.

We need a wise leader.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

It is unpatriotic to send money offshore
I don't need a lecture on patriotism

Biden is hollering! Cool!
Audience of "bitter" people is going wild!


woz said:

slugbug said

I also don't find her unusually attractive. "Hot" I don't get that.

She's not - but compared with McCain she looks alive. She is a loose cannon right now and I think McCain is starting to realise that. Certainly the Republican Party as a whole must be truly horrified with the hate-talk.

Now, I am going to be personally insulting. There are some voices that make me shudder. I never hear the words because the voice is enough to pierce my eardrums and the volume has to go down. Imagine that Palin voice drivelling on as often as we've heard GWB speak over the last 8 years. We'll all have our radios and tvs on *mute*. A *mute* radio?

Re 2012 - I'm with you slugbug - bring it on - extremists will never vote for anyone who is not extreme. Extremists make the most noise. Home grown extremists. Home grown christian extremists. Just as maniacal. Just as dangerous. As any extremist muslim from anywhere. They are a noisy, pathetic minority. Thank goodness the world knows they exist amongst us all.

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Obama: HopeMonger!

I'm so proud of him! Read this fantastic diary on how Obama canvassed in Toledo today. (Hard for me because I still remember the hope in 2004 and the way election day in Toledo went.)

My favorite parts:

Sue Sekel, a 43-year old healthcare worker dressed for a day of Sunday housecleaning, opened her front door to discover Obama standing before her.

He asked her what she did for a living and how she was managing in the economic downturn. Sekel said she was doing fine and that she voted early.

Later, she declined to tell reporters who she voted for, but she said, "I told him what I did." She also said Sunday was "the one day I come home to clean ceiling fans and look like crap, and then this happens."

Obama never stops being a dad.

As word spread that Obama was in the neighborhood, a few dozen people gathered across the street to watch, as three teenage girls raced across the street in bare feet and socks, armed with cameras.

"Where are your shoes?" Obama asked them, before taking photos with them and crossing the street. There he shook hands with about a dozen neighbors, asking them what they did for a living and offering words of concern.


Denise Knisley, a 53-year-old grocery store employee, said she had been thinking about voting for the Democrat and definitely will after meeting him. The two talked for several minutes in her driveway, with Obama leaning against the open gate of a silver Jeep Liberty.

"He sounds really positive, like he's going to help us," Knisley said. "You've got to believe in somebody."

~~~


Toledo blade pics

aimzzz said:

Thanks Sparrow
The pics make me wish I lived in that neighborhood :)

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

You're welcome, aimzzz. It makes me sad. I know I should let 2004 go, but I remember canvassing many of those same neighborhoods. And I remember the cold, rainy, miserable election day. It felt doomed even from the morning. Desperation was in the air--as well as voter suppression. sad.sad.sad.sad.sad.

How our country has been made to suffer more due to unscrupulous evil people.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

I went to the Children for Obama rally. I am uploading videos and photos of the adorable and smart, free-thinking children (I know this because I have lived here 30 years and they can have intelligent conversations from a young age!) The woman is questioning them. Note her sticker of Palin that says "nope."

I ran into these wierdos. They strike me as wingnut talk radio listeners. They probably came in from suburbia.

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sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Huffpo video with Hillary in PA. (Heck. If THIS Hillary had been showing up in the primary, I may have been more likely to support her.)

(I can't figure out how to embed the video, so just click here
In a passionate speech introducing Joe Biden at a campaign rally in Scranton, Pennsylvania this afternoon, Hillary Clinton gave a strong endorsement to Barack Obama by celebrating the end of the Bush administration, shouting:

"Make no mistake about it. We've done it before and we will do it again. America will once again rise from the ashes of the Bushes."

It's the second time in the last week that she's used the dramatic line - last Monday, she said that "America can rise again as we have before from the ashes of the Bushes" in a forceful speech at the 8th Annual Eleanor Roosevelt Legacy Committee Luncheon in New York City.

This afternoon, she also slammed John McCain and the Bush administration's response to the financial crisis, criticizing them for bailing out large companies while "millions of people are losing their homes and jobs every single day! Where's their bailout?"

And she said that sending Republicans back to Washington to clean up the economic mess was like "sending a bull to clean up the china closet. They broke it and we're not buying it anymore."

aimzzz said:

Sparrow

Desperation is in the air again, but this time the unscrupulous are the desparate. Maybe I'm wrong, but in the last few days, the news gives the sense that folk are becoming tired of that ugly little game. Does it seem that way to you?

Maybe the ughs will pull it off again, but it seems like the people are seeing that they made the country suffer...

Got Hope?

aimzzz said:

Can you say Rabid???
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Sarah Palin warned the audience about the threat of terrorism, and explained that the Republican ticket should be elected because “we know who the bad guys are.”
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“We know that in the war, it’s terrorists, terrorists who hate America and her allies and would seek to destroy us, and the bad guys are those who would support and sympathize with the terrorists,” she said. “They do not like America because of what we stand for. Liberty. Freedom. Equal rights. Those who sympathize and support those terrorists who would seek to destroy all that it is that we value, those are the bad guys, OK?”

Palin draws a line between 'good guys' and 'bad guys'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/12/palin-draws-a-line-between-good-guys-and-bad-guys/

aimzzz said:

Has she no pride???
Actually she seems proud of embarassing her son...

Palin: Hockey mom experience on 'executive side' of the sport
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/12/palin-hockey-mom-experience-on-executive-side-of-the-sport/

Sarah Palin seems to have slipped effortlessly into the role of John McCain’s attack dog — but those aggressive tendencies may have been cultivated many years ago as an “exuberant” hockey mom in Wasilla, where she used to bang her fists on the penalty box glass and demand that her son get tougher with his opponents on the ice.

At least that’s how she described her time as a hockey mom to Comcast SportsNet’s Steve Coates, who interviewed Palin after she dropped the puck at the Philadelphia Flyers’ season opener on Saturday night. The governor recounted how she used to embarrass her son Track by yelling at him from the side of the rink, telling him to play nice. But if he was going to play rough, Palin said, she gave him license to go all out.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Children for Obama - pictures and video - you can also see me with my new Palin sticker that says "Nope"

http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/silenced_majority_portal/2008/10/post-2.html

aimzzz said:

Desperate, but at least stepping away from strategy of character assassination:

McCain's closing argument: A push for divided government?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/12/mccains-closing-argument-a-push-for-divided-government/

A McCain senior advisor and a major campaign surrogate suggested Sunday that the GOP’s poor prospects in the House and Senate should give a boost to the Republican presidential nominee’s candidacy.
"Do we really believe that the American public is going to feel safe by having both the head of the Congress and the head of the White House from the same party...
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It’s a strategy popular with some high-profile conservative voices.

Christy said:

McCain helped businessman buy Fort Ord land for a fraction of its market value

http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_10703310?nclick_check=1

aimzzz said:

for Christy
Louisiana's chameleon voters tint red state purple
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-12-50stateslouisiana_N.htm

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

New thread.

Thanks to Christy!

aimzzz said:

NO COMMENT
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...a new low in this election: the antichrist attack. Type “Obama” and “Anti-Christ” into Google and you’ll get 1.2 million matches. A widely circulated chain e-mail tries to make the case that Obama is the “Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40” the Book of Revelation predicts would be the antichrist...

Anatomy of attacks
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14506.html
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hmmmmm...
can't fimd that verse about the Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

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