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Dobson's Deplorable Rhetoric

Focus on the Family compares Obama victory to Nazi bombing.! Via Think Progress:


The author of the e-mail, Focus on the Family Action senior vice president Tom Minnery, told his readers not to despair, saying that the right wing would overcome this situation just as Britons overcame Hitler’s bombing in World War II:


The spirit of Winston Churchill was alive and well on Tuesday night at Focus on the Family Action headquarters.


You may recall that in the most desperate days of World War II – when Great Britain was being pounded daily by Hitler’s Luftwaffe – that Winston Churchill called on his countrymen not to despair from danger but to rise to the challenge. […]


As our incredible team of staff members watched the election results pour in on Election Night, an amazing thing happened that Churchill might have recognized. Despite some sobering disappointments, there was no mood of despair and no “bunker mentality.”

Update: Ben Smith points out that, on the Corner, John Derbyshire compares Obama's Americorps program to Nazi concentration camps and medieval forced labor.

Focus on the Family’s show airs on more than 1,000 stations in the U.S. reaching millions of listeners.

This is deplorable hate speech coming from a Christian show that is supposed to focus on the family.

Let's focus on my family.

Specifically, let's focus on the portion of my family that is dead and were murdered at Auschwitz and other German concentration camps during World War II. At least half of my family on both my mother's and father's side lost their homes during Kristallnacht.

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Crystal Night was the night when all hell broke loose on the Jews in a firestorm of rage and breaking glass as Hitler intentionally inflamed the hate against Jews. He allowed anti-semitism to explode in the city. Jews hid in closets or attics as they heard the shouts and curses and sound of broken glass. They saw their families hauled off and put on trains---sent to an unknown place.


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During Crystal Night over 7500 Jewish shops were destroyed and 400 synagogues were burned down. Ninety-one Jews were killed and an estimated 20,000 were sent to concentration camps!

They lost everything they loved and everything they owned.

They lost their lives and they slowly starved to death as they prayed for death in the concentration camps.

Yes. What happened on Kristallnacht happened to some people in my family. They're gone. Aunts, uncles, cousins that never got to "bunker down..." as Focus on the Family so crassly phrases it.

Let me tell you, Focus on the Family's statement is an insult to families who lost loved ones in Crystal Night and during the Holocaust!

We have witnessed inappropriate intolerance and hate speech from the religious conservatives this whole election season.

Mr. Dobson and his organization should know full well that they've crossed the line. You know you've crossed the line when you compare our President-elect to a man who murdered millions of Jews and innocent people. You know you've crossed the line when you compare a U.S. President-elect to one of the dictators who committed the worst inhumane crimes against humanity. Furthermore, you know you've crossed the line when your supporters are doing things like this.

Mr. Dobson owes us an apology and a retraction. I suggest that if you've lost family in the Holocaust (even if you're a non-Jew) then contact Focus on the Family here and remind them that their words and actions are indecent and decidedly unchristian.

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sparrow Author Profile Page said:

Washington Monthly Why LIEberman really wants to keep the gavel on the HLSC.

This seems to be routinely overlooked, but take a moment to consider what the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs actually does: it's the committee principally responsible for oversight of the executive branch. It's an accountability committee, charged with investigating the conduct of the White House and the president's administration.

As chairman of this committee for the last two years, Lieberman decided not to pursue any accusations of wrongdoing against the Bush administration. Lieberman's House counterpart -- Rep. Henry Waxman's Oversight Committee -- was a vigilant watchdog, holding hearings, issuing subpoenas, and launching multiple investigations. Lieberman preferred to let his committee do no real work at all. It was arguably the most pathetic display of this Congress.

And yet, now Lieberman acts as if keeping this chairmanship is the single most important part of his public life. Why would he be so desperate to keep the gavel of a committee he hasn't used? I'll let you in on a secret: he wants to start using the power of this committee against Obama.

Lieberman didn't want to hold Bush accountable, but he seems exceedingly anxious to keep the committee that would go after Obama with a vengeance, effectively becoming a Waxman-like figure -- holding hearings, issuing subpoenas, and launching investigations against the Democratic president.

Lieberman doesn't care about "reconciliation," he cares about going after a Democratic administration. Why else would he fight diligently to be chairman of one committee instead of another?

woz said:

Horrific! I sent my questions to the Focus on Family Fear and Hate regime. I asked if they would please stop focussing on my Jewish loving, muslim loving, arab loving, gay loving, christian loving, hindu loving, buddhist loving, aboriginal loving, black loving, red loving, white loving, green loving family. Focus on their own Family please. Never mine.

woz said:

This one's for you, Chuck. There has always been sibling rivalry between Americans and Australians. It's there. Get over it.

Typical Yanks. They've pinched our prejudices
Tom Hyland
November 9, 2008

TYPICAL Yank. The thought might have crossed the mind of the guard at the Shrine of Remembrance as he lectured the elderly American tourist with his camera, plaid jacket and slacks.

The old Yank was my father's cousin, one of dozens Dad had in the US, the children of Irish uncles who migrated early last century and settled in New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Connecticut.

His name was John J. Hyland, and when he arrived in Melbourne on a brief holiday, Dad asked me to show him around. So we went to the shrine, where he had a conversation with the guard, a man with a slouch hat and, it seemed, a kitbag full of prejudices, including a defensive resentment of Americans.

Typical Aussie.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/typical-yanks-theyve-pinched-our-prejudices-20081108-5kkb.html

woz said:

sparrow, who appoints those positions? And is it possible that he'll get to keep it after his appalling record of behavior so far?

aimzzz said:

How about some good news...
You may have read about BushCo's huge flurry of executive orders to subvert crucial regulations, especially regarding the environment, but also thwarting other important protections.

Well, Obama's all over it!

Obama Positions Himself to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions on Environmental, Social Issues

Also a most appropriately named diary: Our long national nightmare is over
~~~~~

A a couple of weeks ago, these stories began to crop up about Bush's last minute frenzy of executive power abuse... I know I don't need to say it here (but can't stop myself):
Do not but into the narrative that Bush is doing everything possible for a smooth & cooperative transition. He is trying to screw us every which way he can before he gets the boot.

BUT Obama's got our back! I could cry for joy

abqjohn said:

Question of the moment: WHO is Shrubby Mc Failure going to pardon before he leaves office? A premeptive pardon of Uncle Karl? Scooter Libby label(- his sentence was only commuted)? Whio else?

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

A-holes. Isn't California's Prop 8 enough? Passed with help of millions of Third World immigrants at that, all admitted to the US under partisan Republican immigration policies?

Some religious groups ought to get their tax exempt status revoked.

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

Personal announcement:

I am returning to Los Angeles in mid-December and sticking around until at least early January, as my folks will travel to Alaska for Christmas and New Year's, and will need me to tend their place while they're gone.

During that timeframe, I will replace the one true Nazi, right in my garage - my formerly beloved BMW 3-series. It will feel so good to finally stop driving a product from a company that would rather have San Francisco nuked.

I've already done my homework on the trade-in values, fair prices for a replacement car, insurance, and more. I just need to get my butt over to California (at least once the fascists do realize that W will no longer be their President) and actually get the swap done.

aimzzz said:

Welcome back soon, Ally
I'm glad you will be here for the grandest event!!!

aimzzz said:

I would like to dedicate this song to the following people (in no particular order) who will become irrelevant in January. Those who already became irrelevant are not excused. If justice prevails, all, past & present, will be held responsible for their acts in the Bush administration.

Feel free to add to this list... it's a long way from complete:

George W Bush
Karl Rove
Condoleezza Rice
Dick Cheney
John Ashcroft
Donald Rumsfeld
Joshua Bolten
Alberto Gonzales
Scooter Libby
Paul Wolfowitz
Richard Perle

Halliburton (not a person- deserves honorable mention)


aimzzz said:

Alt version:

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

aimzzz

I may not be around for the inauguration. I will probably have to come back to Seoul just a few days short of inauguration.

But that's okay. Replacing my BMW with a Hyundai Genesis, and naming the new car after Kwan Yin, will be a grand event in and of itself. This will be the greatest Christmas gift that I can give myself.

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

aimzzz

You must also add Reverend Moon and about 90% of the Korean-American community to that list as well.

abqjohn said:

hey Ally

Please give me a call when you get back - always great to hear your voice.

abq

aimzzz said:

And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
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Should have listed:
Bill Frist
Tom Delay
Dennis Hastert
Rick Santorum
Newt Gingrich
Saxby Chambliss
Fred Thompson
Jack Abramoff (maybe should be congratulated)

Grover Norquist
Club for Growth (in it's entirety)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

aimzzz said:

on the same note:
NYT Op-Ed

The Climate for Change
By AL GORE

The electrifying redemption of America’s revolutionary declaration that all human beings are born equal sets the stage for the renewal of United States leadership in a world that desperately needs to protect its primary endowment: the integrity and livability of the planet.
aimzzz said:

The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles

aimzzz said:

Chuck
Yesterday we were talking about what Obama means by 'change'. I think we are getting preliminary sketches. Here are a couple from just this evening. I posted links to both above, but here they are again.
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One is the beginning of repair & renewal. Obama must focus on the economy, but simultaneously his administration will be busy dismantling the Bush legacy and rebuilding our government.
~~~~~~~~~~~
The Climate for Change
Al Gore outlines his vision of coupling energy independence with economic growth. His group has detailed scenarios to implement such projects. I think Gore presents the type of program Obama talks about... specifics may differ, but I imagine Gore is pointing in the direction Obama plans to pursue...

woz said:

I agree aimzzz. I think Gore is pointing in the same direction - perhaps there are some differences with Obama but I'd see the differences more in the urgency with which to begin projects.

aimzzz said:

found on Kos

Congratulations Barack - The National Anthem

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

ABQ John

I will give you a call toward Christmas (hopefully after I get my car swap all taken care of).

Matthew Carnicelli Author Profile Page said:

It would be more accurate to write that the spirit of "The Boys from Brazil" is alive & well in Colorado Springs.

toolmaker Author Profile Page said:


James Dobson watched his empire go up in smoke...What kept the IRS and federal attorneys off his back was the ability to deliver victory in the voting booth.
His evangelical voting block made a deal with the devil ( rove and Neocons) and the devil kept the legal system and the IRS off FOTF for 8 years.

An Administration that does not need him, such as the one coming in, will be wise to let the watchdogs in Government do their thing and investigate FOTF.

James Dobson himself is a packaged religious theocrat that believes himself to be kingmaker. His group fought McCains first choices of Senator Lieberman or Mitt Romney as VP. Could McCain have won with either of the two alternatives...maybe not, but it would have been far closer.
Dobson promised a floor fight at the GOP convention if McCain selected other than an annointed evangelical, and they got their way with the nomination of Governor Palin.

McCain may have selected Governor Palin to seal the fate of the religious right. Senator McCain has no love for them, he was being strong armed by them, they have outsized influence within the GOP...it was time to cut them down a few notches. The GOP has extraordinary access to information, they didnt know everything there was to know about Governor Palin??...cannot believe that. Senator McCain may have chosen Palin knowing she would self destruct and in turn remove the blight upon the landscape known as FOTF.

Dobson and his minions are in dire straights, and hopefully they continue to lose influence, political and otherwise.
Time for the kingmaker to meet the righteous agents of the IRS and Attorney Generals Office.

aimzzz said:

Cool map!

3 tabs
-Mouse-over for county results

-Margin of Victory in 3-D Map has buttons to rotate for better view of different regions. (Can use mouse to rotate, but Maine can end up in Florida or Baja California)

Presidential Election: Winners by County

aimzzz said:

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(to moderator: hope this image doesn't drag resources... if so, plz delete!)

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

I visited Focus on the Family when I went to the DNC. I was blazing along the highway between Denver and Manitou and at the mid-point saw the Air Force Academy where many think they're on a mission to God. Also there is the church where hypocrite Haggard preached, and then the sign for "Visitor Center - Focus on the Family." So I had to see it for myself.

Some of these people may have been part of the post-centennial paranoia and 9/11 era - the over-reaction. They can not capitalize on that any more though. They are grasping at straws. They will only marginalize their people further. All of these rightwing groups will self-isolate and their influence will be diminished.

There may have once been some good to some of it. They may still be. But it has been overshadowed by this type of ignorant and closed-minded behavior. Now the "bogeymen" Ayers and Wright can even use their Freedom of Speech, and it will not be possible any more to demonize all Muslims or to split Jews into fellow apocalyptics and those who run the other way in horror.

Tomorrow night Front Line is also doing a special on Lee Atwater, who did the same kind of damage as Karl Rove and was probably a mentor and role model, but dropped dead at the age of 44. I receive a lot of rightwing information and they are grasping.

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

slugbug

All of these rightwing groups will self-isolate and their influence will be diminished.

I fully agree. I do hope that their victory over the California gay marriage ban fight will be their last.

But then, what happens to the immigrants who support such groups? They'll truly have no place to go. The Korean-Americans, if the Religious Right loses its grip on America, will truly have no home, as South Korea has no room for their extremism either.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Well I'm telling the couple of networks of progressives I know of in Colorado, that's for damn sure! & I have alot of relatives there too.

I took this when I was there.

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slugbug Author Profile Page said:

I just alerted enough people in Colorado that this should go viral pretty fast! Not that they won't be hearing about it but they need to know we have their backs. They are already not happy tax money pays for the advertising for FOF on a public thoroughfare. Public school children also go on field trips there.

I decided to revisit my infiltration during DNC week.

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I was heading toward Manitou Springs on Highway 25 and I passed that foreboding Air Force Academy and suddenly spotted a sign that said "Focus on the Family Visitor Center." I turned off and saw no sign of it but kept driving - passed exurban tract housing for as far as the eye could see - no business places other than malls - a brand-new hospital.

I was ready to give up and then I saw it - Focus on the Family. Parked my nondescript rental car and I had no identifying clothing nor accessories that might give me away as a liberal or secularist. I was able to acquire a special sticker that would allow me to take a self-tour and it was really quite impressive (see photos of the very literal art gallery, the Founder, the amusement park where there is no magic but it's still kind of fun.) My niece and nephew have been taken there on school field trips (public school) and my brother tells me that the land was given for free by the City of Colorado Springs.

When I came out, a black cloud suddenly developed in the sky, with bolts of lightning. I hopped into my rental car but the parking lot was so immense that I couldn't find my way off the grounds. Finally I drove onto a road but realized that I was going the wrong way, with no means of exit, and cars were heading toward me at full speed. I suddenly utilized my power of Free Will to drive over the median to safety! I did get in where the Dutch cinematographers were kicked out.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

This wingnut Education official thinks Obama will declare martial law.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/9/20614/9533/250/643521

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

a more uplifting article about church reaction to Obama victory
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jckHBXEsdwMCU88AHdLU-7CrHHCAD94BN33G0

aimzzz said:

I used to worry that Bush would declare martial law to stay in power, but he wants out too bad-- you can tell by looking at him

aimzzz said:

DCP grew out of the John Kerry campaign. Memories come flooding back with this picture showing the character of the man in the aftermath of the 2004 election.

This is what Obama did today

Chuck said:

Woz:

Oh, I know that whole Aussie/Yank bit (and the Brit/Yank one too) so I hope you'll know that half the time I'm just messing around (and the other half I did avoid getting my nose broken, so far, being lucky, I guess).

Chuck in Houston

Chuck said:

Scots, on the other hand, are hard to understaond. What language do they speak anyway?

Chuck said:

Aimzzz:

Here's an interesting combination: Joni Mitchell and Johnny Cash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1QO0jQ0PB0&feature=related

I'm looking for a specific Dylan clip buti can't find it. In the meantime, I need to read Mathew's comment and find Sam Cooke.

Chuck in Houston

Chuck said:

Matthew:

I know this is way off-topic but as I have been pondering my 401K's....

Here is I think what happened (not my original ideas -- more water-cooler talk and articles suppied butI don't have them at hand so I can't attribute, etc.).

Back in the lat 1990's, the economy was going great-guns, so somewhere in the Clinton admin someone suggested that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac should approach commercial banks and encourage them to make mortgage lonas to less-qualified applicants as a social policy (i.e., to move people from gov't or gov't subsidized lodgings into single-family homes that they "owned"). Given the economic growth of the late 1990's, and the idea of moving away from housing projects, that was a very good idea. The article I read by one of the authors of that initiative was from 1998 or so and warned, very specifically, that this is good social policy in a growing economy but if a retratcion was to occur it would be a disaster.

OK, that was an extreme paraphrase and I could have some of the basics wrong butlet me catch my breath and move on.

Chuck said:

OK, so then, fast forward to, say 2002. I'm on home leave back in Portland and some old High School buddies have gotten into bank appraisals for real estate as property values keep going up-and-up (and the stock market -- an alternative investment -- stagnates). They tell me the banks are lending money to families that do not have the earnings to qulify for a mortage, and, moreover, are not asked to put any money down, and, moreover, are given an additional loan to kit out the new house! We all agree this is a pyramid scheme that can't go on forever (I guess it went on for 6-8 years).

aimzzz said:

A Change Is Gonna Come

Don't make me stay up all night again...

aimzzz said:

Who'd have thunk it? Joni & Johnny

Chuck said:

Now, this couldn't work if Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (whatever, excatly, those are) was (were?) not, in essence, underwriting these essentially bad loans. But, since the scheme worked, the financial folks in Manhattan (people that hate to see pedestrian commercial banks raking in more returns then their own well-compensated selves), invented ways to bundle these loans and market them (I guess that is a type of "derivative"). At the same time, people that wanted to simply speculate in real estate (as opposed to low-income people that simply wanted to buy a house as per the original scheme), took advantage of the situation to buy into a rocketing marktet on someone else's ticket (ultimately, the federal government's ticket as they somehow or another underwrite Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that in turn underwrote all these bad loans).

Chuck said:

Aimzzz:

Give me a second -- I've got to finish this thought. Also, If I stay up that late again I think my wife will kill me! And I think she would have every right to do so! (People, I am speaking, for the record, metaphorically).

Chuck in Houston

aimzzz said:

Bring It On Home To Me

Chuck said:

So, once all these bundled and toxic "derivatives" of bad mortages were circulating around the global capital markets, all that had to happen to put an end to this Ponzi scheme was for some auditor (just as with Enron) to look behind the curtain. Now, once that happens, all lenders go into a paranoid lock-down and therefore businesses cannot get short-term loans (which are critical - at least I think so as my pay used to come from them and, truth be told, we earned it as the original investors made huge amounts out of what we did, though that is another story). So that, in a stream-of-consciousness sense, is where we are at, in my opinion. How we start getting out of this mess is an entirely different thing, although I believe, that if you don't understand how you got into a mess in the first place then you don't have much of a chance of getting out of it.

Whew....

Got that off my chest!

When I read it again in a day or so I hope I won't be too embarrassed.

Now, off to seek Sam Cooke....

Chuck in Houston

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

Obama martial law? :)

Well, Clinton was supposed to use the Y2K crisis as an excuse for martial art. Every wingnut feared that possibility.

Chuck said:

Aimzzz:

So far I can't top your Sam Cooke! Aimzzz, musically, I think you are way-cool (which, together with a quarter, used to, back in the day, buy you a local phone call).

Chuck in Houston

Chuck said:

And I always thought this was a Steve Miller song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqzv1ZS6uZs&feature=related

Chuck, chastened, in Houston

Chuck said:

Best I can do on short notice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_ghOG9JQM

aimzzz said:


O Happy Day

Aretha Franklin and Mavis Staples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvlEOldamEw

Sister Act 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M

aimzzz said:

Chuck the Chastened
I wouldn't have guessed Sam Cooke, but Steve Miller? ;)

aimzzz said:

Cranked up edition of the Sister Act 2 version:
O Happy Day - CGC & Sylvie Desgroseilliers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a37bBm8pXSk

Chuck said:

Steve Miller did a good cover of "You Send Me," (I've got the plastic somewhere), but in meantime:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUHtJJ1Fgjs

aimzzz said:

Chuck-forgot one

Saturday Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2H5T_BSzA

Chuck said:

This is the only decent Marshall Tucker I could find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhsGnS9av_A&feature=related

I think I need to look for the Alamn Brothers.

Chuck said:

Best I can do on the Allman Brothers (Studio "Jessica"):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3wxL_lPf6I

Sorry! Just not clicking for me tonight!

Chuck in Houston

Chuck said:

Here is an earlier version, which seems to have been a day much like today was in Houston -- clear crisp autumn (we get in November what New England gets in September sometimes):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToo3iwTOso&feature=related

Chuck said:

Allman Brothers Sweet Melissa Unplugged:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uFD7JqkOR4

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

Chuck and aimzzz

Go to sleep you people!

aimzzz said:

Right-wing media feeds its post-election anger
The title says it all... Well, not quite all, but I wouldn't click that link unless you want to throw up

aimzzz said:

Not uite awake-- left out subtitle for above article:
"Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity dive shamelessly in, talking about the 'Obama recession' and other partisan lines."

Christy said:

Ok, so.. Can we impeach bush yet?

How about now?
How about now?
How about now?
How about now?
How about now?

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

Christy

It'd be academic, but I still love the idea of a W impeachment.

Or wait till W is gone, his executive immunity is history, then start holding hearings on his unconstitutional actions. He will certainly be guilty of a lot of crap.

A dozen years ago, South Korea did the same thing, and convicted two ex-presidents, both military dictators; one got death, and the other got life in prison, and though both eventually were pardoned, their legacies are forever tainted.

Back when that thing was going on, I remember some Chinese people telling me about how the same thing ought to happen to their own country as well. I fully agreed back then, though I couldn't have imagined of the US itself having such a crooked president later on, in the form of W.

Matthew Carnicelli Author Profile Page said:

Chuck, I highly recommend Kevin Phillips' Bad Money. He goes into the securitization of debt stuff at length.

Christy said:

Academic schmacademic.

Unless something has changed, georgie can STILL use our military for up to 90 days without congressional approval.

Let him walk away? Ok. And if he blows up Iran on his way out?

We have never been more in danger from bush than we are right now.

Until the moment Obama takes power, we are still at the mercy and whim of monsters. We will remain so for the better part of 3 months.

Impeachment is now and has always been the only way to deter their destruction of our nation.

And I am not sure about yall, but Reid and Pelosi can KISS MY ASS and I will no longer be a democrat BECAUSE OF THEM. I am already now an Independent.

I will teach my kids to memorize those two so if they ever get a chance to spit in their faces, they will know exactly whom they are spitting on. And why.

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

Christy

I see it differently, but we agree on one thing.

Reid and Pelosi do suck. And I am not a Dem either - though it has to do with the utter ineptitude and ideological extremism of California's state Dems.

aimzzz said:

Christy
71 days - long days, but better than 90
:)

Impeachment would have its satisfactions but is a long process. Congress isn't in session & Washing shuts down for 2-4 weeks over the holidays.

The military is a concern. On the other hand, Bush tipped his hand with the incursion into Syria. It was a wake-up call for Obama & I have little doubt that they have contingency plans for any Bush effort at military escalation. It's appropriate for Obama to keep a distance until sworn in, but I believe they would intervene in some way if Bush creates that kind if emergency... by intervene, I mean within the bounds of law-- ex. mobilizing the congress and the people.

You probably, but Obama's team has an eye on Bush's flurry of executive powers abuse. If not, check this link.

Obama Positions Himself to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions on Environmental, Social Issues

aimzzz said:

Video has a little bio of Valerie Jarrett & short interview.
Transition Team Co-Chair Valerie Jarrett Discusses Priorities on ‘Meet the Press’

aimzzz said:

LOL!
I never figured out whether MSNBC is a TV channel, or is internet only (found this clip on Kos)

Either way, Joe Scarborough really F***ed up, so to speak...

aimzzz said:

Wooooooooo Hoooooooo!!!!

Obama walking through the Rose Garden with the shrub!

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

aimzzz

I am forever boycotting MSNBC due to its bombardment of my computer with ads calling for support of California's gay marriage ban, which indeed barely passed.

It's one thing if my computer was actually sitting in that damn state. But it wasn't. It was/still is in Seoul.

aimzzz said:

*GOOSEBUMPS!*

news pics
Obama walking through the Rose Garden with Bush
Obama walking along the colonnade
Obama in the Oval Office!!!! There appears to be an unfortunate blemish in these pics, but I understand it will be removed in a couple of months...

Crowds pressing up to the WH fence... people hoping to get a glimpse....

aimzzz said:

CNN poll (as seen on TV)

Record worst for a sitting 'president'
Bush 76% Disapproval rating
(Previous record: Truman 67%)

Another record
83% say things are going badly here

BUT
75% believe Obama will do a good job

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gaaaakkk
Palin having herself interviewed while cooking.

aimzzz said:

Oh, squeeeeeeeee... Obama & Bush sitting in the Oval Office...

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turned to FOX to see that pic in the background while Rove & whatsits talk about how the W has been underrated...
why? 'We didn't explain ourselves'... We didn't push back against the Dems' negativity...

Wow! My memory must be defective... I must have been on drugs...

aimzzz said:

Admit it... you've been missing Ann Coulter

"The only good thing about McCain is that he gave us a genuine conservative, Sarah Palin. He's like one of those insects that lives just long enough to reproduce so that the species can survive. That's why a lot of us are referring to Sarah as 'The One' these days. Like Sarah Connor in 'The Terminator,' Sarah Palin is destined to give birth to a new movement."

The GOP's last chance: Become Democrats

Speaking of insects, there are types that eat their own...

aimzzz said:

gaaaaakkk!

Speaking of eating their own, the above cited article continues...

Noting that a Rasmussen poll showed that 69 percent of GOP voters love Palin, Limbaugh sneered, "So all of you wizards of smart on our side, all of you intellectualoids who think that Palin was a drag, the party loves Sarah Palin. The vast majority of conservative Republicans love Sarah Palin. Twenty percent of Republicans who say she hurt the ticket, you are probably the ones that need to go and walk and join across the aisle with the others that you find so much more palatable because they are able to communicate and they are writers and they are intellectual ... The party loves her."

Down with communication, writing and intellect!

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

aimzzz

Tell Coulter that Palin thinks sodomites are undeserving of any human rights.

And we know that Coulter has a penis, and is a total sodomite.

slugbug Author Profile Page said:

Limbaugh doesn't report that the proportion of Republicans is down.
They would be unable to win anything without Independents, who ran the other way from Palin.

As for Palin, I wrote about Flynt's porn satire and someone called me a sexist ass, but the true sexism is her nonsupport of women's choice and of the right to pick partner of choice, without a traditional definition imposed.

Rightwingnuttery implies within it sexist rolebound behavior.

aimzzz said:

What's up with Bush?

Today (Veteran's day)Cheney's going to lay the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. I don't usually notice protocol, but I don't remember a anyone but the President performing that honor.

aimzzz said:

Grab a beer & pop some corn...

EXCLUSIVE: Gingrich, Steele duel for RNC chair

Neither man will acknowledge his interest in the post, but Republicans close to each are burning up the phone lines and firing off e-mails to fellow party members in an effort to oust RNC Chairman Mike Duncan...


If you care, a more detailed list of contestants:
Who Will Take Up the Gauntlet to Lead the GOP Out of the Wilderness?

Ally McRepuke in Seoul Author Profile Page said:

slugbug

Women are not supposed to even have the right to vote if the right-wingers are to be believed.

Of course, I am quoting Sodomite Coulter.

Maybe I should get a huge prosthetic penis and a blond wig, and show up as Coulter for next Halloween!

woz said:

Slugbug said

Rightwingnuttery implies within it sexist rolebound behavior.

And "there's the rub". Until women who want freedom realize that it is unavailable under Republican/Religious Extremist rule, they will continue to make the mistake of believing equality is possible under either party within a democracy. The marriage of church and state can never work in a democracy. And democracy can never work where church and state are one - the middle east, for example. It cannot work. Democracy has different conditions in each different church-state or state-church.

That's why our imposition of democracy on Iraq will never look like democracy does here at home. And how can we say that women elsewhere crave our democracy when many of our own christian women at home don't crave it? Aye "there's the rub".

aimzzz said:

wos said

And how can we say that women elsewhere crave our democracy when many of our own christian women at home don't crave it? Aye "there's the rub".

And yet people have the right to not paprticipate-- it's part of the mix, incomprehensible as it may be.

A step further, in the US, it's usually an informed choice, whereas in closed or isolated societies, people may not know it can be otherwise, or the knowledge may be withheld.

Note: from above, the following is purely MHO: "in the US, it's usually an informed choice"

aimzzz said:

Chuck in Houston

Toots & the Maytals

kangaroo Author Profile Page said:

Christy said:
Academic schmacademic.

Unless something has changed, georgie can STILL use our military for up to 90 days without congressional approval.

Let him walk away? Ok. And if he blows up Iran on his way out?


Documents linking Iran to nuclear weapons push may have been fabricated

Exclusive: Questions mount on validity of Iran
nuclear docs

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/IAEA_suspects_fraud_in_evidence_for_1109.html

kangaroo Author Profile Page said:

Hey Guys, anyone got any of the free victory Obama stickers, Looks like they are not shipping out of the country.

Anyone got any spares, I really need one for my car.

http://pol.moveon.org/shepstickers/?id=15084-9234868-_uNzQXx&t=6

anyone help me, please

abqjohn said:

Hey Kangaroo

I am order some and will get one out to you. E-mail me to make sure I have your correct addy.

abq

Chuck said:

Aimzzz:
The best version of this I could find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FawyVBWEsI&feature=related

Chuck said:

Matthew:

Is that the same Kevin Phillips as the "Coming Republican Revolution" (c. 1968, or something to that effect) and the "Cousins Wars" (or something like that, c. 1990's)?

Chuck in Houston

Chuck said:

Guys -- one of the reasons I love doing this (i.e., posting youtube music video clips), is that in doing so I run across all these interesting associations and connections that I otherwise would never have known about, such as:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgzWqfZo8fY

(Lennon doing Many Rivers to Cross),

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0IAkrAmrpU&feature=related

(Elvis Costello doing Many Rivers to Cross)

Chuck said:

If I didn't post them, then I wouldn't stop for a second (between posts) and think about them, and how they relate to other musical productions, and the role of popular music in the larger society, which then leads to another round of clicks and another post. So, anyway, I hope it's not too much of a distraction. God Bless and no more need to get out any votes!

Chuck in Houston

Chuck said:

Aimzzz:

I love those county-level maps: Braxton County, West Virginia, went for Obama by 73 votes!

Chuck in Houston

PS: My mom's side is all from Braxton County from about 1800-1900 and all Yellow Dog Democrats (though my Grandma, bless her heart, voted for Reagan -- and probably Wallace too truth be told, not that it should).

Chuck said:

That last was for my Grandma, born in Braxton County, West By God Virginia, around 1898 or so.

aimzzz said:

Chuck
Both thumbs up!!!
(hmmm... the cats don't seem to like my harmonies)

aimzzz said:

Well, good evenin', don't that sun look good goin' down...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-RdfJuTXbA

Chuck said:

Here they (cameraman? producer?) try to make it look like Elvis is playing guitar parts that Scotty is actually playing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAonlWEWYF8&feature=related

But, then again, who ever said life was supposed to be fair?

Chuck in Houston

Chuck said:

I don't know -- the McCartney clip said this was a Bill Monroe song, but somehow I never trust Bill Monroe. I'm probably wrong on that. I hope so, anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffhqOy_A8KM&feature=related

Chuck said:

Also, notice on these clips, I don't think there is much lip-synching, and the musicians are playing live. Especially on the older buegrass clips, where there was not that much mixing technology to bring to bear, those are real live performances. Craftsmanship.

Chuck said:

Aimzzz:

More Earl Monroe old B&W Uncle Pen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2XT9u7iw9o&feature=related

Chuck said:

And of course it may have been spin, but I like the way the Scruggs and Flatt split off from Earl Monroe (especially Scruggs):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiqpk4aX828&feature=related

Chuck said:

One thing that is deplorable is that you cannot get a Scruggs and Flatt version of Foggy Mountain Breakdown on youtube. At least not as far as I can figure it out.

Chuck said:

It must be a Bill Monroe vendetta.

Matthew Carnicelli Author Profile Page said:

Chuck, yep. Same guy. He's now a registered independent - and a dyed-in-the-wool adult/realist.

aimzzz said:

I'd like to dedicate this song to the Republican Party, with a special shout out to the members of Bush administration...

Like a Rolling Stone

the irony, the irony...

aimzzz said:

Chuck
just now catching up on the tunes-- good stuff...
Earl Monroe - maybe Earl Skruggs or Bill Monroe ;)
Mighty fine either way!

sparrow Author Profile Page said:

New thread. (Assuming my internet worked right!)

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